Successful/unsuccessful oneup bids
 

Thought I would finally contribute to this forum and start a new thread for people to post their successful or otherwise one-up bids. (Given the other one-up thread is a little more of a general discussion).

To get the ball rolling:

AKL - TBU (Saturday 28th July).
Bid $194 - successful
Seat plus bag smart saver (S) to Business (R)

Put the bid in of Friday and heard this morning that I was successful.

Unfortunately I didn't check EF or anything pre application to see what fare buckets etc were available.

I also applied for a recognition upgrade last week for my partner (on the same flight but different PNR), rang today after my oneup had come back to check it had gone through (which it hadn't), but was fortunately able to confirm it this morning. Otherwise she would have been rather unimpressed!

I'm fairly pleased with how this has panned out, one-up does seem to provide cheaper upgrade options for routes that have low premium loadings.

Cheers,
Matt

Cool, hopefully others can post their experiences here. :)

Nice work - good outcome :)

and this is the problem.... one-ups applied before recognition. I mean, what is the point in calling it a "recognition" upgrade if you dont get recognised.

Well done though on your successful bid and thanks for sharing.

So any word on whether standby upgrades are till happening since OneUp was introduced (I know they still appear on the website but is anyone having them actually succeed?)

Friend of mine reported unsuccessful as NZ*S on SFO-AKL July 29th, Y-U class. Bid $200.

R>0, UEO>0, but A=0.

Advice on OneUp vs Airpoints request?
 

I'm a GE, who wants to gift an upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy for my Father who is flying from AKL - LAX later this month. I have the option of putting through a 220 airpoint standby upgrade, or submitting a 300 - 350 bid using OneUp. Does anyone have any thoughts on what would have a better chance of clearing?

The best way to see which is rated higher is to do two persons at the same time
Using both types

Personally, I would go for the standby upgrade, for two reasons. Firstly due to the fact that it has a longer life than OneUp bids and won't expire at the 7day mark if the bid isn't successful (the flights I've looked at so far don't seem to have PE or BP completely filled with OneUPs at the 7day mark). Secondly because I think (as many do) the way this has all been implemented is terrible and I would rather avoid OneUp all together.

Of course everything is so damn opaque and there is no deterministic behaviour that we can rely on, so your mileage will vary.

My solution to this is simply to avoid AirNZ where it is possible. They're missing out on another LAX-LHR from me this week as I can upgrade to J on UA, but not on NZ. ^

Just had the premium team tell me over the phone that they would be filling the premium cabins with OneUp bids at T-72h and not leaving anything reserved for airport control. I thought it was rather interesting and a bit different to us FTers' experiences.

$50 OneUp upgrade on AKL-SYD NZ105 to Business Class = a FAIL

I've used both of my Gold Elite recognition upgrades since one up started. One (AKLSFO) was confirmed 7 days prior to travel and one (LAXAKL) was done when I checked in. My partner has also used one of his recognition upgrades AKLBNE which was confirmed 3 days before flight and he used a standby upgrade BNEAKL which was confirmed at check-in. From our experience one up has no made any difference to us. But I guess the jury is out for a few more months until this oneup stuff really takes off.

Also a friend was successful with all three of their one up requests:

AKLSYD $295.00
SYDRAR $245.00
RARAKL $195.00

However the very next week their AKLSYD $300 bid was rejected..

The minimum bit for that flight is $100...
I submitted a $100 bid for NZ105, since I'm still Gold, it should count as $130.. I will report back how it goes.....

I will be keen to see how you go.

I have two pending standby upgrades for 1st week October and 3rd week of December on NZ102 (SYD/AKL).

If you can secure one-up upgrades for around $130 then it might be wise for me to retract my standby upgrade requests (APD$250) and put in one-up bids.

My flights are in October too, NZ105 and NZ118, currently $100 for each, if the first one fails, I will change the return flights to $150 just to see how it goes. Hope this can help ur decision for the December flight.

Really that much:eek: I could pay QF for a Business Class sales fare with that kind of premium on top of a regular economy fare for that, and get points and status credits.
That is much more likely to succeed unless you have a number of GE wanting to bid against you.

I'd be interested to know if your friend has status (ie, S, G, GE) or if that was their actual bid.

Also, I think there was something mentioned about taking into consideration how many previous successful bids a pax had made - may be part of their new approach to "level the playing field" and giving everyone else a turn.

Friends status is silver... Hope this helps..

Just checked and my friend is a silver.. Hope this helps..

It would be useful if folk could include both the status associated with bids and date and flight number - or fare bucket availability around the seven day mark if available.

The amateur revenue analyst in me is actually genuinely interested in what the outcome of the new upgrades system is. (The professional traveller in me isn't, and flies other airlines...)

One up
 

are these the "grossed up" dollars ?
ie did he bid a lower $$ ?
is your friend a GE ? G? S? J?

Ok so Ive done some digging and have more details for you all.. My friend is a NZ*S and those rates were grossed up.. What they actually paid was as follows.

AKLSYD $265.00
SYDRAR $225.00
RARAKL $175.00

Also asked why they didn't just buy QF business class special fare.

It was because Air NZ fly direct from SYD to RAR and QF dont. Also they said that QF was $2400 AKLSYDAKL yet Air NZ was only $1065.00 economy class (AKL/SYD/RAR/AKL) and then they paid $665 for upgrades. So this means a total cost of $1730.00 which is still way cheaper than a QF business class tkt just to SYD and back.

They also wanted to get the status points on Air NZ and all the flights were on Long haul aircraft but apparently QF only use 737s? They said they had a 777-300 AKLSYD a 767 SYDRAR and 777-200 RARAKL...

All the flights were in the first two weeks of August..

Hope this answers some of your questions..

any ideas where the minimum bids are documented, I didn't see that mentioned anywhere

Also I'm GE, where is the uplift figure mentioned based on your status?

Sorry if this is a FAQ

All the info you need is here.. http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/oneup-upgrades

I'm a *GE. Bid AD220 AKL-SFO and it was successful (to PE). Have another bid in coming home LAX-AKL next week and will see how my AD220 looks for that....

Once you are in the one up screen, there is a sliding scale, far left is no bid, far right is $800 for transtasman.. When you move the scale one notch up from no bid, it shows the minimum bid of $100.. Not sure about other flights..

I'm Gold, so I get 30% uplift, GE gets 50%, and S gets 10%.

is the $220 before the uplift for being a GE?

My bid of AD440 for AKL-LAX to PE failed. I'm *S.

Will see how the standby upgrade turns out for my return flight--requested that before it went to the new system. Should have done that for the AKL-LAX flight as well--long story.

unsucessful
 

status: NZ*G upgrade a Jade pax
flight: NZ39 AKL-HKG / 28AUG
class: Y-> PE
$ or APD: request 220APD (from NZ*G's account)
outcome: unsucessful (at this stage)

noticafted by email 3 days prior depature.

offer strength still indicate 4/5 (light green) + offer received. it does not indicate "declind". so wondering there might be still be a chance. will report back on later on.

It is my experience that if they don't clear you in the first couple of the 7 days, your offer will be declined. They just won't tell you until the last day.

I presume there's no uplift on the bid.

i presumed the same too, then again i dont like this "guessing game" and i dont like my APD 1 = NZ$1.

status: passenger no NZ status, *G on UA (not sure if this has the uplift)
flight: NZ8 AKL-SFO, 2 Sept
class: Y-> PE
$ or APD: request $350, was on the border of very poor/weak.
outcome: sucessful

confirmed 7 days in advance.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/122/EF%20NZ%20avail.png

Successful
 

AKL-SYD 31AUG12

NZ103 (772)

Economy -> Business

$210 bid (+10% *S uplift).

Was showing on the higher end of weak on the scale

Not sure what fare buckets were available 7 days out from flight, but upgrade was confirmed 3.5 days out.

I'd be interested to know post flight whether you thought it was worth it (assuming you've flown NZ Y on the 744 before and can make such a comparison).

Yes, personally no, but it's for an elder family member, and I'd prefer to make them more comfortable for a reasonable OneUp. I'd much rather they start sending the 777 to SFO.

Unfortunately if they did it would be the 772 which has substandard Y+ when compared to the 744. It's only the limited fleet of 77W which currently have the new Spaceseat ... http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/new-premium-economy

The other thing that might be useful would be the fare class (and product for short-haul) to try and see whether there is any correlation.