The Official Flying Blue Information Thread
Apr 22, 2005, 1:12 pm
#47
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Paris
Programs: LH M&M FTL
Posts: 114
Luxair : As long as you fly on an AF code share Flight, you earn miles.
Mileage earning in France :
N G U class : No Miles
E/W/A class: ivory 250 Status Miles (qualifying miles/status milesSM);
Silver 500SM + 250 NonSM
Gold 500SM + 375 NSM ; Platinum 500SM + 500 nSM
Y/B/S (S:abonnés) class : ivory 1000SM ; Silver 1000SM + 250 nSM
Gold 1000Sm + 375nSM ; Platinum 1000Sm + 500 nSM
Other NEWS
- ONE WAY Flight Award possible on AF/KL. It will soon be possible on NW and KQ (Kenya Airways which will join Skyteam as soon as possible)
- Qualifying miles also on Kenya Airways
- Alaska / Malaysia will become Partners (the agreement with South African is finished aswell as for TAM on the France-Brazil tickets)
- The AF opti miles will become Open Miles (mileage remains the same for the wards)
finally :
upgrades possible from :
When buying ticket in France
long haul : Y -- JC
CAribbean indian Ocean :M -- S
european : Y/S/B
When buying ticket abroad
long haul : Y/B/K -- J/C/D
CAribbean indian Ocean M/B/K -- S/A
european : S/B/S/K
And on ALL KLM flights from S/B
As Usual, hope it helps...
Mileage earning in France :
N G U class : No Miles
E/W/A class: ivory 250 Status Miles (qualifying miles/status milesSM);
Silver 500SM + 250 NonSM
Gold 500SM + 375 NSM ; Platinum 500SM + 500 nSM
Y/B/S (S:abonnés) class : ivory 1000SM ; Silver 1000SM + 250 nSM
Gold 1000Sm + 375nSM ; Platinum 1000Sm + 500 nSM
Other NEWS
- ONE WAY Flight Award possible on AF/KL. It will soon be possible on NW and KQ (Kenya Airways which will join Skyteam as soon as possible)
- Qualifying miles also on Kenya Airways
- Alaska / Malaysia will become Partners (the agreement with South African is finished aswell as for TAM on the France-Brazil tickets)
- The AF opti miles will become Open Miles (mileage remains the same for the wards)
finally :
upgrades possible from :
When buying ticket in France
long haul : Y -- JC
CAribbean indian Ocean :M -- S
european : Y/S/B
When buying ticket abroad
long haul : Y/B/K -- J/C/D
CAribbean indian Ocean M/B/K -- S/A
european : S/B/S/K
And on ALL KLM flights from S/B
As Usual, hope it helps...
Last edited by flyaircanada; Apr 22, 2005 at 1:20 pm
Apr 22, 2005, 2:50 pm
#48
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: JNB
Programs: Air France Platinum - Qatar Airways Gold
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Originally Posted by flyaircanada
When buying ticket abroad
Apr 23, 2005, 1:12 am
#50
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Location: Paris, France, AF F+ Rouge pour toujours, Flying Blue whatever, LH FTL, HHonors Gold, formerly proud SCC Executive, now IC Ambassador, BA down to nobody, Grand Voyageur Le Club
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Do international tickets booked in N class still earn miles ?
Apr 23, 2005, 4:54 am
#52
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: HEL
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flyaircanada thank you for all your help. I have a question but you don't have to answer it if you don't want to of course. How have the rules been decided? Has there been any input from the members themselves or other market researches? Does the management care about input?
Thank you for any answers.
Thank you for any answers.
Apr 23, 2005, 5:48 am
#53
Moderator: Flying Blue (Air France & KLM), France and TravelBuzz!
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Originally Posted by flyaircanada
25% on N Class on AF european flights
25% in L class on AF long haul flights
25% on all V E N class on KLM flights.
So it seems to mee that you earn miles on N class.
25% in L class on AF long haul flights
25% on all V E N class on KLM flights.
So it seems to mee that you earn miles on N class.
Apr 23, 2005, 8:27 am
#54
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: JNB
Programs: Air France Platinum - Qatar Airways Gold
Posts: 1,659
Originally Posted by flyaircanada
25% on N Class on AF european flights
25% in L class on AF long haul flights.
25% in L class on AF long haul flights.
The signal I hear here is: "We don't really need that you spend 2.000 euros for your personal trips and achieve status with them. If you really insist, please be ready to pay 30 or 40% more in order to get your qualifying miles".
FB is definetely imitating the worst practices of the competition's Frequent Flyer programs. That's going to change dramatically my travel plans for 2005. No more long-haul economy AF flights for my business trips just to get the miles. I will now strictly stick to my company's travel policy: cheapest business class tickets for long-haul travel. Which means BA or LH 80% of the time, their fares being 30% cheaper with 1 connection in FRA, LHR or MUC.
Worst news of the day.
Apr 23, 2005, 10:10 am
#55
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 186
Originally Posted by flyaircanada
25% on N Class on AF european flights
25% in L class on AF long haul flights
25% on all V E N class on KLM flights.
25% in L class on AF long haul flights
25% on all V E N class on KLM flights.
Apr 23, 2005, 10:13 am
#56
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: FR
Posts: 87
Originally Posted by flyaircanada
25% on N Class on AF european flights
25% in L class on AF long haul flights
25% on all V E N class on KLM flights.
So it seems to mee that you earn miles on N class.
25% in L class on AF long haul flights
25% on all V E N class on KLM flights.
So it seems to mee that you earn miles on N class.
http://fr.biz.yahoo.com/050420/17/4dk34.html
Par ailleurs, il est rappelé que, conformément à l'application des normes comptables, les 'miles' probabilisés au fur et à mesure de leur acquisition par les adhérents sont comptabilisés en diminution du chiffre d'affaires et inscrits en dette au bilan.
Au 31 mars 2004, les dettes cumulées d'Air France (Paris: FR0000031122 - actualité) (80 ME) et de KLM (34 ME) correspondant aux 'miles' acquis par leurs membres respectifs s'élevaient à 114 ME.
Au 31 mars 2004, les dettes cumulées d'Air France (Paris: FR0000031122 - actualité) (80 ME) et de KLM (34 ME) correspondant aux 'miles' acquis par leurs membres respectifs s'élevaient à 114 ME.
Apr 23, 2005, 11:58 am
#58
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: FR
Posts: 87
Originally Posted by flyaircanada
25% on N Class on AF european flights
25% in L class on AF long haul flights
25% on all V E N class on KLM flights.
So it seems to mee that you earn miles on N class.
25% in L class on AF long haul flights
25% on all V E N class on KLM flights.
So it seems to mee that you earn miles on N class.
Tempo 1 (K class), Tempo 2 (H class), Tempo 3 (T class), and Tempo 4 (V class), (L and N classes have been added afterwards as Tempo 5 and 6), Tempo 4 did not earn any miles.
Also, COI routes only earn 50 %. So this is only a little backtrack to ten years ago.
Apr 23, 2005, 12:33 pm
#59
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: MOW
Programs: KLM Flying Dutchman forever, bmi Diamond Club (is there a theme here?), LH, BA, EK, DL nobody
Posts: 1,877
Originally Posted by ALEXIS2004
It seems V class will earn full mileage on AF and only 25% on KLM. How can they explain this to the customers. Many times they advertise thay with AF/KLM, you can book an outgoing trip with AF and return trip with KLM. So, under the same ticket for example LHR-CDG-ATL you would get full mileage and if your return is ATL-AMS-LHR you only get 25%. Seems odd to me except if I got something wrong.
Apr 23, 2005, 2:10 pm
#60
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BER
Programs: Hilton Gold, BA Gold
Posts: 15,757
hello
maybe this question was discussed before, but i'd like to know:
i did qualify last week for another year FP rouge with 30 international flights (living in France). does it mean i'll be another year (until march 2007) FB gold?
maybe this question was discussed before, but i'd like to know:
i did qualify last week for another year FP rouge with 30 international flights (living in France). does it mean i'll be another year (until march 2007) FB gold?