Flying Blue XP - does it reset after each status?
Mar 8, 2023, 2:33 am
#16
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: DTW, IST, ESB
Programs: AF/KLM Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 425
Yes that's true - however! you do get up to 2 years to achieve gold, in this case. Year 1 - fly up to silver; year 2 - remain silver and then an additional 180xp to gold. Year 3 - enjoy gold and decide what you want to do moving forward. Now - if you achieve a higher tier before your year qualification ends, then that would be your new, updated annual deadline
Mar 8, 2023, 8:59 am
#17
Join Date: Feb 2022
Programs: Flying Blue
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by hhdl;[url=tel:35068827
35068827[/url]]To elaborate, that activity pattern (a 66 XP per direction round trip, which would not quite get BA Silver, each year), starting from Silver with zero XP would get you Flying Blue Gold 2 years out of every 5 (FB Silver the other 3 years) with no other activity and 5 years of BA Bronze (I think that's the sub-Silver tier over there?) out of 5.
Year 1: start with zero, add 132 XP, requalify as Silver
Year 2: roll over 32 XP, add 132 XP, requalify as Silver
Year 3: roll over 64 XP, add 132 XP, move up to Gold
Year 4: roll over 16 XP, add 132 XP, move down to Silver
Year 5: roll over 48 XP, add 132 XP, move up to Gold
Year 6: start with zero, add 132 XP, move down to Silver
(You're now in the exact same state you were in at the start of Year 2: Silver rolling over 32 XP)
The rollover almost certainly decreases the elite credit relative to status requirements in FB relative to other programs, but if you're able to consistently maintain any status, it actually becomes more rewarding longer term.
Year 1: start with zero, add 132 XP, requalify as Silver
Year 2: roll over 32 XP, add 132 XP, requalify as Silver
Year 3: roll over 64 XP, add 132 XP, move up to Gold
Year 4: roll over 16 XP, add 132 XP, move down to Silver
Year 5: roll over 48 XP, add 132 XP, move up to Gold
Year 6: start with zero, add 132 XP, move down to Silver
(You're now in the exact same state you were in at the start of Year 2: Silver rolling over 32 XP)
The rollover almost certainly decreases the elite credit relative to status requirements in FB relative to other programs, but if you're able to consistently maintain any status, it actually becomes more rewarding longer term.
Mar 8, 2023, 10:45 am
#18
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,750
Everyone who ends their membership year with an amount of XPs above the relevant threshold gets to keep the "remainder".
Having a credit card may help you to reach/surpass the XP threshold, but that's not the same thing as saying that it "increases the carry-over". There is no rollover unless you go beyond the threshold in the first place.
Mar 8, 2023, 11:31 am
#19
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: Flying Blue, Hilton Honors, Amtrak Guest Rewards
Posts: 2,407
In the long and extra-long J round trip (66 XP each way) case with the BofA card's automatic 20 XP per year for continuing to carry the card, starting from Silver with zero rollover:
Year 1: start with 0 XP, get 152 XP from flights + card, requalify for Silver
Year 2: roll over 52 XP, get 152 XP from flights + card, move up to Gold
Year 3: roll over 24 XP, get 152 XP from flights + card, move down to Silver
Year 4: roll over 76 XP, get 152 XP from flights + card, move up to Gold
Year 5: roll over 48 XP, get 152 XP from flights + card, requalify for Gold
Year 6: roll over 20 XP, get 152 XP from flights + card, move down to Silver
Year 7: roll over 72 XP, get 152 XP from flights + card, move up to Gold
Year 8: roll over 44 XP, get 152 XP from flights + card, requalify for Gold
Year 9: roll over 16 XP, get 152 XP from flights + card, move down to Silver
and so forth
If you earn 100+x XP (x being positive and less than 80, of course) per year consistently, the proportion of time you spend as Gold will over the long run be x/80: 140 XP will bounce between Silver with 40 XP rolled over and Gold with zero rollover, so 152 XP per year would be Gold 13 years out of 20.
Hitting the $15k per year spend target (I strongly advise trying to do it in no more than 11 months and then sock-drawering, to avoid possible calendar mismatch issues etc.) for the 40 extra (60 total) XP annually would mean 192 XP per year, which would mean Gold 9 years out of 10 and the other year would be Platinum.
Disclaimer for the pedantic: this assumes no future program changes... having a 10 or 20 year plan for status is probably not the smartest idea one could have.