Help needed on OTC/NTC
Sep 4, 2005, 11:25 pm
#1
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Help needed on OTC/NTC
My question has been partly answered on a search but I wonder if any of our regular contributors from the AF side could help?
I am due to book an award ticket CDG-Mex with the outbound on the 12th Sept and inbound on the 1st Oct. It is showing as a 772. There is availability (Open natch) in Premiere and L'Affaires.
Seat Guru is showing the Premiere class as 8 seats. Does anyone happen to know if these are 180 degree lie flat beds (NTC) or OTC?
Although I have frequently used (and hated) the business class seat version of OTC, I have never been in the First class OTC. Is it worth the extra 40,000 miles to go in Premiere rather than Business if OTC?
And if there isn't a NTC option to Mex, does anyone know if there is one for CDG-LAX?
Any help or advice much appreciated as usual.
Tom
I am due to book an award ticket CDG-Mex with the outbound on the 12th Sept and inbound on the 1st Oct. It is showing as a 772. There is availability (Open natch) in Premiere and L'Affaires.
Seat Guru is showing the Premiere class as 8 seats. Does anyone happen to know if these are 180 degree lie flat beds (NTC) or OTC?
Although I have frequently used (and hated) the business class seat version of OTC, I have never been in the First class OTC. Is it worth the extra 40,000 miles to go in Premiere rather than Business if OTC?
And if there isn't a NTC option to Mex, does anyone know if there is one for CDG-LAX?
Any help or advice much appreciated as usual.
Tom
Last edited by Tomco; Sep 5, 2005 at 12:02 am Reason: Additional comment
Sep 5, 2005, 4:47 am
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Originally Posted by Tomco
My question has been partly answered on a search but I wonder if any of our regular contributors from the AF side could help?
I am due to book an award ticket CDG-Mex with the outbound on the 12th Sept and inbound on the 1st Oct. It is showing as a 772. There is availability (Open natch) in Premiere and L'Affaires.
Seat Guru is showing the Premiere class as 8 seats. Does anyone happen to know if these are 180 degree lie flat beds (NTC) or OTC?
Although I have frequently used (and hated) the business class seat version of OTC, I have never been in the First class OTC. Is it worth the extra 40,000 miles to go in Premiere rather than Business if OTC?
And if there isn't a NTC option to Mex, does anyone know if there is one for CDG-LAX?
Any help or advice much appreciated as usual.
Tom
I am due to book an award ticket CDG-Mex with the outbound on the 12th Sept and inbound on the 1st Oct. It is showing as a 772. There is availability (Open natch) in Premiere and L'Affaires.
Seat Guru is showing the Premiere class as 8 seats. Does anyone happen to know if these are 180 degree lie flat beds (NTC) or OTC?
Although I have frequently used (and hated) the business class seat version of OTC, I have never been in the First class OTC. Is it worth the extra 40,000 miles to go in Premiere rather than Business if OTC?
And if there isn't a NTC option to Mex, does anyone know if there is one for CDG-LAX?
Any help or advice much appreciated as usual.
Tom
Sep 5, 2005, 1:15 pm
#3
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Appreciated
Thanks Rangerss,
Have booked the First class option, a "First" for me. It will be interesting to see how much better it is. Thanks for taking the trouble to comment
Have booked the First class option, a "First" for me. It will be interesting to see how much better it is. Thanks for taking the trouble to comment
Sep 9, 2005, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by rangerss75
If the flight has First Class then the seats are 180 degree lie flat beds, even if they are OTC. I have not flown First NTC yet, but the old Espace Preimière seats are very comfortable and I got a good night's sleep. I'm pretty certain (from what I've read on this board) that CDG - MEX is not yet NTC. All the more reason, I should say, to use 40,000 miles to go First. The difference between it and Business is probably greater in OTC than that in NTC.
Sep 14, 2005, 11:44 am
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An Update
It was OTC on the 772. The endless trek around CDG to gates 80 in 2E didn't help either. Then I stepped on the plane...
Now admittedly, having only 2 people in First no doubt helped but kudos to AF. Faultless service, excellent wines, interesting menu made an 11 hour trip go well, like an 11 hour trip.
I may start a campaign about no Bacardi being available on AF but I have been mollified by Bacardi Breezers in the lounge at Mexico.
Tom
Now admittedly, having only 2 people in First no doubt helped but kudos to AF. Faultless service, excellent wines, interesting menu made an 11 hour trip go well, like an 11 hour trip.
I may start a campaign about no Bacardi being available on AF but I have been mollified by Bacardi Breezers in the lounge at Mexico.
Tom