[Confirmed]La Tribune announces AF/SQ code-share agreement for flights to Australia
Apr 13, 2017, 1:51 am
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[Confirmed]La Tribune announces AF/SQ code-share agreement for flights to Australia
http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-...ml#xtor=EPR-2-[morning-briefing]-20170413
According to La Tribune, AF and SQ have signed a code sharing agreement that involves:
- putting an AF code on SQ flights between SIN and Australian gateways, as well as on flights operated by Silk Air to Malaysia and Phuket
- putting an SQ code on AF flights between CDG and 5 European cities, as well as on 5 domestic flights out of CDG
According to La Tribune, AF and SQ have signed a code sharing agreement that involves:
- putting an AF code on SQ flights between SIN and Australian gateways, as well as on flights operated by Silk Air to Malaysia and Phuket
- putting an SQ code on AF flights between CDG and 5 European cities, as well as on 5 domestic flights out of CDG
Apr 13, 2017, 3:58 am
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Apr 13, 2017, 4:35 am
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I am not sure if it will be a big change, current AF fares to Australia usually authorize routing via SIN interlining with SQ. The problem with interline is that there are only a few booking classes that can be used, meaning that it is not always a matter of paying a bit more to have the desired connection, but if D and U are sold out in SQ, even an AF J or P fare will not be possible. Here, we can hope that when D and U are sold out, there is still some availability in some AF booking classes in business class operated by SQ to offer the route.
Unlike what the article mentions, it is already possible to fly to Australia on AF flight code via AUH, CAN and PVG, but not via ICN or HKG which allow only for interline routings.
Unlike what the article mentions, it is already possible to fly to Australia on AF flight code via AUH, CAN and PVG, but not via ICN or HKG which allow only for interline routings.
Apr 13, 2017, 10:42 am
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The article and the press release are not super clear regarding miles earning/burning... It would be weird not to earn FB miles on AF-coded flights operated by SQ!
Apr 13, 2017, 12:18 pm
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But do they code-share on CDG-SIN ? I have the feeling that no.
For the SQ code-share AF-operating, the transfer of SQ pax from CDG1 to CDG2F will be a pain...
For the SQ code-share AF-operating, the transfer of SQ pax from CDG1 to CDG2F will be a pain...
Apr 14, 2017, 1:05 am
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You are arriving on an International flight:
→ Follow the arrows to gates 20 to 28
If you do not yet have your second boarding pass, go to the company connecting flights desk of your next flight
→ Take the green shuttle bus (Navette verte) to Terminal 2A
Frequency: from 5:00 am to 00:00 pm
→ From Terminal 2A, take the blue shuttle bus (Navette bleue) to Terminal 2E and get off at gate L
Frequency: from 5 am to 11:45 pm
→ Follow signs for «Terminal 2F»
You are arriving on a flight from the Schengen area of the European Union:
→ Follow signs for «Baggage-Exit»
Your flight connection will require that you pass through French territory: please ensure that you comply with French administrative requirements (visa, etc.).
→ Go through the Police border check and Customs
→ Follow signs for «CDGVAL»
→ Take the CDGVAL and get off at the stop for «Terminal 2»
Free service. Night stop 1:00 am to 4:00 am, shuttle service available outside stations. Information dedicated at the airport.
→ Follow signs for «Terminal 2F»
Apr 14, 2017, 1:08 am
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From Paris Aéroport website:
You are arriving on an International flight:
→ Follow the arrows to gates 20 to 28
If you do not yet have your second boarding pass, go to the company connecting flights desk of your next flight
→ Take the green shuttle bus (Navette verte) to Terminal 2A
Frequency: from 5:00 am to 00:00 pm
→ From Terminal 2A, take the blue shuttle bus (Navette bleue) to Terminal 2E and get off at gate L
Frequency: from 5 am to 11:45 pm
→ Follow signs for «Terminal 2F»
You are arriving on a flight from the Schengen area of the European Union:
→ Follow signs for «Baggage-Exit»
Your flight connection will require that you pass through French territory: please ensure that you comply with French administrative requirements (visa, etc.).
→ Go through the Police border check and Customs
→ Follow signs for «CDGVAL»
→ Take the CDGVAL and get off at the stop for «Terminal 2»
Free service. Night stop 1:00 am to 4:00 am, shuttle service available outside stations. Information dedicated at the airport.
→ Follow signs for «Terminal 2F»
You are arriving on an International flight:
→ Follow the arrows to gates 20 to 28
If you do not yet have your second boarding pass, go to the company connecting flights desk of your next flight
→ Take the green shuttle bus (Navette verte) to Terminal 2A
Frequency: from 5:00 am to 00:00 pm
→ From Terminal 2A, take the blue shuttle bus (Navette bleue) to Terminal 2E and get off at gate L
Frequency: from 5 am to 11:45 pm
→ Follow signs for «Terminal 2F»
You are arriving on a flight from the Schengen area of the European Union:
→ Follow signs for «Baggage-Exit»
Your flight connection will require that you pass through French territory: please ensure that you comply with French administrative requirements (visa, etc.).
→ Go through the Police border check and Customs
→ Follow signs for «CDGVAL»
→ Take the CDGVAL and get off at the stop for «Terminal 2»
Free service. Night stop 1:00 am to 4:00 am, shuttle service available outside stations. Information dedicated at the airport.
→ Follow signs for «Terminal 2F»
Apr 14, 2017, 3:03 am
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Apr 14, 2017, 9:03 am
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SQ stresses that it should be the prelude of further collaboration:
https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/g.../jr0817-170413
SQ will get codeshares to: Aberdeen, Bordeaux, Edinburgh, Lisbon, Lyon, Madrid, Marseille, Newcastle, Nice and Toulouse.
As mentioned before, SQ was already the partner of choice for AF when flying to Australia or KUL. I don't know if anything will change in terms of pricing. For example, KUL was a sore point for French pax. AF and MH cancelled their nonstop flight at about the same time. The two options are too fly via AMS on KL or via SIN on AF (with the SIN-KUL on SQ). Unless pricing/availability changes, the only benefit will be that the KUL-SIN segment will allow to earn FB miles. Similarly SQ was already selling NCE via CDG with CDG-NCE on AF at the same price as via FRA or MUC (with LH or SQ codeshare on FRA-NCE)
As pointed above, the transfer from CDG1 to CDG2 will be dreadful for longhaul SQ pax. Frankly, if I were a SQ pax going to NCE, I would rather fly thru FRA or MUC.
https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/g.../jr0817-170413
SQ will get codeshares to: Aberdeen, Bordeaux, Edinburgh, Lisbon, Lyon, Madrid, Marseille, Newcastle, Nice and Toulouse.
As mentioned before, SQ was already the partner of choice for AF when flying to Australia or KUL. I don't know if anything will change in terms of pricing. For example, KUL was a sore point for French pax. AF and MH cancelled their nonstop flight at about the same time. The two options are too fly via AMS on KL or via SIN on AF (with the SIN-KUL on SQ). Unless pricing/availability changes, the only benefit will be that the KUL-SIN segment will allow to earn FB miles. Similarly SQ was already selling NCE via CDG with CDG-NCE on AF at the same price as via FRA or MUC (with LH or SQ codeshare on FRA-NCE)
As pointed above, the transfer from CDG1 to CDG2 will be dreadful for longhaul SQ pax. Frankly, if I were a SQ pax going to NCE, I would rather fly thru FRA or MUC.
Apr 14, 2017, 12:57 pm
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SQ stresses that it should be the prelude of further collaboration:
https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/g.../jr0817-170413
SQ will get codeshares to: Aberdeen, Bordeaux, Edinburgh, Lisbon, Lyon, Madrid, Marseille, Newcastle, Nice and Toulouse.
As mentioned before, SQ was already the partner of choice for AF when flying to Australia or KUL. I don't know if anything will change in terms of pricing. For example, KUL was a sore point for French pax. AF and MH cancelled their nonstop flight at about the same time. The two options are too fly via AMS on KL or via SIN on AF (with the SIN-KUL on SQ). Unless pricing/availability changes, the only benefit will be that the KUL-SIN segment will allow to earn FB miles. Similarly SQ was already selling NCE via CDG with CDG-NCE on AF at the same price as via FRA or MUC (with LH or SQ codeshare on FRA-NCE)
https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/g.../jr0817-170413
SQ will get codeshares to: Aberdeen, Bordeaux, Edinburgh, Lisbon, Lyon, Madrid, Marseille, Newcastle, Nice and Toulouse.
As mentioned before, SQ was already the partner of choice for AF when flying to Australia or KUL. I don't know if anything will change in terms of pricing. For example, KUL was a sore point for French pax. AF and MH cancelled their nonstop flight at about the same time. The two options are too fly via AMS on KL or via SIN on AF (with the SIN-KUL on SQ). Unless pricing/availability changes, the only benefit will be that the KUL-SIN segment will allow to earn FB miles. Similarly SQ was already selling NCE via CDG with CDG-NCE on AF at the same price as via FRA or MUC (with LH or SQ codeshare on FRA-NCE)
"The airlines will also explore the possibility for Singapore Airlines’ KrisFlyer and Air France-KLM’s Flying Blue members to earn and redeem miles when travelling on the codeshare flight segments."
I can understand that it's not possible to redeem miles yet on the code-share segment, but earn ?? That would be very bad.
Agreed
Apr 14, 2017, 12:58 pm
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From Paris Aéroport website:
You are arriving on an International flight:
→ Follow the arrows to gates 20 to 28
If you do not yet have your second boarding pass, go to the company connecting flights desk of your next flight
→ Take the green shuttle bus (Navette verte) to Terminal 2A
Frequency: from 5:00 am to 00:00 pm
→ From Terminal 2A, take the blue shuttle bus (Navette bleue) to Terminal 2E and get off at gate L
Frequency: from 5 am to 11:45 pm
→ Follow signs for «Terminal 2F»
You are arriving on a flight from the Schengen area of the European Union:
→ Follow signs for «Baggage-Exit»
Your flight connection will require that you pass through French territory: please ensure that you comply with French administrative requirements (visa, etc.).
→ Go through the Police border check and Customs
→ Follow signs for «CDGVAL»
→ Take the CDGVAL and get off at the stop for «Terminal 2»
Free service. Night stop 1:00 am to 4:00 am, shuttle service available outside stations. Information dedicated at the airport.
→ Follow signs for «Terminal 2F»
You are arriving on an International flight:
→ Follow the arrows to gates 20 to 28
If you do not yet have your second boarding pass, go to the company connecting flights desk of your next flight
→ Take the green shuttle bus (Navette verte) to Terminal 2A
Frequency: from 5:00 am to 00:00 pm
→ From Terminal 2A, take the blue shuttle bus (Navette bleue) to Terminal 2E and get off at gate L
Frequency: from 5 am to 11:45 pm
→ Follow signs for «Terminal 2F»
You are arriving on a flight from the Schengen area of the European Union:
→ Follow signs for «Baggage-Exit»
Your flight connection will require that you pass through French territory: please ensure that you comply with French administrative requirements (visa, etc.).
→ Go through the Police border check and Customs
→ Follow signs for «CDGVAL»
→ Take the CDGVAL and get off at the stop for «Terminal 2»
Free service. Night stop 1:00 am to 4:00 am, shuttle service available outside stations. Information dedicated at the airport.
→ Follow signs for «Terminal 2F»
Apr 14, 2017, 9:22 pm
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I don't know how to interpret the following sentence from SQ communiqué
"The airlines will also explore the possibility for Singapore Airlines’ KrisFlyer and Air France-KLM’s Flying Blue members to earn and redeem miles when travelling on the codeshare flight segments."
I can understand that it's not possible to redeem miles yet on the code-share segment, but earn ?? That would be very bad.
"The airlines will also explore the possibility for Singapore Airlines’ KrisFlyer and Air France-KLM’s Flying Blue members to earn and redeem miles when travelling on the codeshare flight segments."
I can understand that it's not possible to redeem miles yet on the code-share segment, but earn ?? That would be very bad.
One might read it as suggesting that AF codeshares (on SQ metal) would not earn FB miles. Or that they will only earn level miles but not status miles.
But that would run against AF FB policy.
Also a bit surprising that this concerns only AF and not KL
Last edited by brunos; Apr 15, 2017 at 2:28 am
Apr 15, 2017, 6:54 am
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I am wondering as well whether it will be possible to book AF coded flights SIN-Australia only without having to originate the trip on AF network.
For now I have not managed to buy KL coded / GA operated flights between DPS and Australia.
For now I have not managed to buy KL coded / GA operated flights between DPS and Australia.
Apr 15, 2017, 7:02 am
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No. It's never possible to book such code-shares when not in connection with the "main flight". To give another example, you cannot book an AF-coded DL-operated US domestic flight if it's not in connection with an AF-coded transatlantic flight.