WX ends ORY-LCY
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I must say I'm not surprised that AF have not taken over ORY-LCY but I'm surprised they haven't introduced a couple of CDG-LCY.
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Indeed, it all depends where you are starting from and where you go. If you go from downtown Paris to downtown London, yes Eurostar is no brainer. If you go to Canary Wharf, then LCY is unbeatable. But I have to say that, unfortunately, the customer experience at LCY has become extremely poor (warehouse-style boarding area in poor condition, super-crowded, no lounge, etc)
Unfortunately you are oh so right... At busy hours it feels like a refugee camp with an adjacent landing strip. Already space is very restricted, but to make matters worse they squeeze in useless shops (although they probably aren't that "useless" otherwise they wouldn't be there, I just would prefer more civilized sitting or restaurant space rather than a MontBlanc shop or Boss shirts).
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Looking at what people around me at the airport I can see five categories:
- 50% for whom it's irrelevant, they wear "athletic footwear"
- 40% whose shoes would indeed need a shoe shine (and their suits and shirts some dry cleaning/laundry)
- 5% whose priority should be to take a shower before worrying about a shoe shine
- 3% whose tatoo need a refresher {this is England}
- 2% whose shoes did get a shoe shine recently enough
but still true
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Can you still? I know this was a perk that AF offered in the past, where you got a voucher when you were flying in J, and also for status pax if I remember correctly.
Looking at what people around me at the airport I can see five categories:
but still true
Looking at what people around me at the airport I can see five categories:
- 50% for whom it's irrelevant, they wear "athletic footwear"
- 40% whose shoes would indeed need a shoe shine (and their suits and shirts some dry cleaning/laundry)
- 5% whose priority should be to take a shower before worrying about a shoe shine
- 3% whose tatoo need a refresher {this is England}
- 2% whose shoes did get a shoe shine recently enough
but still true
PS: no idea if you still can.
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I don't want to go OT, but I can only assume that you mostly fly band 1/2 rather than band 3/4. The food is more repetitive than the previous free band 3 and certainly doesn't look better, and it is much worse than band 4.
Also on fares, unfortunately, LHR-NCE on BA are significantly more expensive now than they were before BA introduced HBO, then BoB. The flights are also so packed that the free same day change with Plus fares is pretty much useless. My last three plus fares saw either no flight I could change to or only the late evening one which is useless to me (out of 4-7 daily LHR-NCE depending on season) and I have now stopped buying them on that route since they changed the change fee for advanced change from 0+ fare difference to €80/£60+fare difference.
Also on fares, unfortunately, LHR-NCE on BA are significantly more expensive now than they were before BA introduced HBO, then BoB. The flights are also so packed that the free same day change with Plus fares is pretty much useless. My last three plus fares saw either no flight I could change to or only the late evening one which is useless to me (out of 4-7 daily LHR-NCE depending on season) and I have now stopped buying them on that route since they changed the change fee for advanced change from 0+ fare difference to €80/£60+fare difference.
Of course, price depends on demand. As flights to NCE becomes fuller and fuller over time, it is not surprising to see that BA flights to NCE are more expensive than years ago, even after HBO and BoB.
I cannot generalize (and I don't think that anyone has a significant exhaustive price comparison pre and post BoB). But the fare I paid of EUR101 is very low (that was for a same-day return), and I can still see a lot of days available for 90 basic and 24 more for Plus. I had never seen such low fares available. Competition dictates and AF is not far on prices.
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Spare a thought for those of us on those flights every week! mostly band 3 ad 4 here when in Europe. And yes food could already be repetitive before but much more varied over time than it would be now although for full disclosure I refuse to pay a penny on BA BoB.
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As a regular band 3 flyer (although not as frequent as you) and fellow BA-BoB refusenik, I entirely agree.
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WX is axing the ORY-LCY route at the end of march. So it means of course the end of the AF code-share. I don't know if AF has intentions to replace WX by A5 ?
I discovered that BE is flying once a day CDG-LCY, but AF is not code-sharing on this flight and one daily flight is totally useless on such a route.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...in-march-2017/
I discovered that BE is flying once a day CDG-LCY, but AF is not code-sharing on this flight and one daily flight is totally useless on such a route.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...in-march-2017/
I would much rather drive from South of Orly and park my car and fly. Especially if I were going to a destination closer to LCY or to the north of England.
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Slightly OT, but the attrition continues for WX. Now they axe NTE-LCY. I wonder to whom all those LCY slots will go.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...in-march-2017/
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...in-march-2017/