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PointWeasel Apr 30, 2009 9:48 pm


Originally Posted by getaround (Post 11651590)
How are you getting 'F' for the 100K?

Umm...C is 80K and F is 100K.

Golden Toque Apr 30, 2009 10:17 pm

Booked two tickets...

YWG - ORD (Y) UA
ORD - LGA (F) UA
JFK - ZRH (F) LX
ZRH - FRA (C) LH
FRA - BKK (F) TG
BKK - IST (F) TK
IST - LHR (F) TK
LHR - FRA (C) LH
FRA - YVR (F) LH
YVR - YWG (Y) AC

Canada Security Charge $17
GST $1
Combined Taxes / Fees $169.95

ZortNarf May 1, 2009 11:25 am

Don't know where to find the letter code for service class, so quoting "Cabin Service" from the AP receipt.

YYZ - BOS AC Executive
BOS - FRA LH First
FRA - BEG LH Executive
return
BEG - FRA LH Executive
FRA - ORD LH First
ORD - YYZ UA First

AP miles: 120K
Canada Security Charge (CA) $17.00
Canada Goods and Services Tax (GST/HST #10009-2287) (XG) $1.00
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT) $153.11

Total = $171.11


*Fare calculation:
16JUN09YTO AC X/BOS LH X/FRA LH BEG M0.00LH X/FRA LH X/CHI UA
YTO M0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.01 XT6.65YC16.94XY11.98XA6.05AY
46.04RA20.00SQ40.00YQ XF5.45ORD4.50

woofster May 1, 2009 1:38 pm

I just booked a flight for two (2) from Toronto to Honolulu, HI this Christmas (80,000 miles total). The breakdown is as follows:

ROE 1.01
XT 20.00
SQ 54.00
YQ 8.47
XY 5.99
XA 12.10
AY 38.96 US
XF 5.45
DEN 4.50

Ended up paying $165.67 per person in total. What's with the $54 fuel surcharge deal anyway? Regular tickets through Air Canada are exempt yet it is re-applied on a reward redemption through Aeroplan? :td:

YVR_YYC May 4, 2009 10:37 am

Had to book on AC
 
Had to book on AC so got charged with the fuel charges:

YVR->YYZ (AC)
YYZ->MAD (AC) Stop
MAD->FRA (LH)
FRA->LHR (LH) Stop
LHR->YVR (AC)

Taxes and fees of 437.72 + Aeroplan booking fee of 31.50 + 60,000 miles

:(

getaround May 4, 2009 11:50 am


Originally Posted by YVR_YYC (Post 11691652)
Had to book on AC so got charged with the fuel charges:

YVR->YYZ (AC)
YYZ->MAD (AC) Stop
MAD->FRA (LH)
FRA->LHR (LH) Stop
LHR->YVR (AC)

Taxes and fees of 437.72 + Aeroplan booking fee of 31.50 + 60,000 miles

:(

Was there nothing via the US?

YVR_YYC May 4, 2009 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by getaround (Post 11692073)
Was there nothing via the US?

I'm sure there was (i.e. YVR->ORD->MAD) but I was booking for a friend and the Aeroplan agent said this was the route with the least number of connections. I couldn't have the guy fly home via the US when there was a non stop flight from LHR to YVR.

I'm not upset about paying the fees as I knew I could have avoided them by flying on other * carriers. I'm more disappointed than anything. I should view Aeroplan rewards on AC as access to "discounted" tickets, not as "free" tickets.

stevenshev May 4, 2009 4:34 pm

BDL-UA/Y-IAD/C-SYD-SFO-JFK

100,000 miles, US$95 including call center fee.

Raffles longhaul Jun 18, 2009 1:02 am


Originally Posted by fijaircan (Post 11523731)
I paid $31.50 AP service fee plus $211.90 in taxes for a grand total of $243.40
Routing is: YLW(AC)-YVR(UA)-LAX(SQ)-SIN(SQ)-AKL(NZ)-NAN(NZ)-AKL(SQ)-SIN(SQ)-LAX(AC)-YVR(AC)-YLW
NAN is my point of turnaround.... and I have a stop-over in SIN and YVR.
All flights are in BIZ Class and cost 100,000 miles..

I like this route, but i would leave from a UA/USAIR city and lower the taxes.

I Think the way aeroplan calculates fuel surcharges on rewards is even if you take a shorthaul AC Flight you are charged the fuel surcharge as if you were on AC all the way to your final destination.

For example if i wanted to fly. YYZ-NYC-LAX-SYD--LAX-NYC-YYZ. All on Star Airlines the fuel surcharge could be ZERO..but if i fly AC on the YYZ-NYC LEG and the rest of the itinerary on Star Carriers I would be charged the fuel surcharge AC charges for a YYZ-SYD-YYZ ticket.. Does that sound right ?

Also i would avoid LH as i think there is somesort of surcharge flying LH..


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JeffersonCampervan Jun 18, 2009 3:47 am

YYZ-FRA AC
FRA-AMS LH

AMS-FRA LH
FRA-YYZ AC

Economy

60,000 points; online (no AP call centre fee)

Total surcharges: $301.80

Booked in Jan. travel end of June

travel agent Jun 18, 2009 11:12 am


Originally Posted by Raffles longhaul (Post 11927210)



For example if i wanted to fly. YYZ-NYC-LAX-SYD--LAX-NYC-YYZ. All on Star Airlines the fuel surcharge could be ZERO..but if i fly AC on the YYZ-NYC LEG and the rest of the itinerary on Star Carriers I would be charged the fuel surcharge AC charges for a YYZ-SYD-YYZ ticket.. Does that sound right ?


when using AC in NA as part of Int`l trip, you pay $40 per AC segment

yycworldtraveler Jun 18, 2009 1:01 pm


Originally Posted by travel agent (Post 11929564)
when using AC in NA as part of Int`l trip, you pay $40 per AC segment

True...but not always.

Unless AE has recently changed the rules again, if your destination is Australia it attracts the Canada to Australia fuel surcharge if you use AC at all, and not the $40 NA segment charge.

There are other destinations that attract the 'origin to destination' fuel surcharge as well...but I'm only familiar with the Australia rule.

AC340-541 Jun 18, 2009 4:49 pm

Star Alliance J-Class Reward:

HKG - ICN (OZ) J
ICN - KIX (OZ) J
KIX - HND (NH) Y

$0.00 Taxes
Call centre fee waived since I couldn't complete the booking on AP.com

30,000 miles x2

First time redeeming AP miles! Couldn't be happier!

danielsan Jun 19, 2009 12:17 am

BKK-IST
 

Originally Posted by AC340-541 (Post 11931455)
Star Alliance J-Class Reward:

HKG - ICN (OZ) J
ICN - KIX (OZ) J
KIX - HND (NH) Y

$0.00 Taxes
Call centre fee waived since I couldn't complete the booking on AP.com

30,000 miles x2

First time redeeming AP miles! Couldn't be happier!

Lucky you! Anyways, it's worth it flying J within Asia1 - did it two years ago from BKK-NRT for my wife and me - only 30,000 miles.

Anyways, did another redemption this week for my wife:
BKK - IST (TK in Y - 70,000 miles)

$14.00 - Thailand Domestic Psgr. Service (TS)
PLUS
$30.00 - Aeroplan Service fee
$ 1.50 - GST
TOTAL: $45.50

Again, no other taxes and surcharges. I wonder if this is similar with other *A FFPs - they only charge for fuel charges when flying on their own metal. My wife is with TG's ROP, on her last redemption, she was charged almost $300 in surcharges (on a flight BKK-DAC [Dhaka]). On TG ROP, redeeming travel rewards on partner airlines (usually?) requires more miles than with AP - but their reward redemption chart is based on actual miles flown - sometimes better, sometimes worse than AP.

On this trip, I would've booked it to NBO (Nairobi) with an IST stop-over (yes another 70,000 miles), but alas, they didn't have availability on one of the days - but I think $795 USD (all inclusive) I paid for that ticket (flying in/into Africa is $$$) is better than redeeming 70,000 miles, since rewards flights from Asia 1 to Canada/Continental USA is just 75,000 miles (and Y tix are roughly $1500, at least that's what I pay for.)

For BKK-DEL over Christmas on TG (50,000 miles), I paid:
$ 5.67 - India Dom. & Intl. Psgr. Service Fee (WO)
PLUS
$30.00 - Aeroplan Service fee
$ 1.50 - GST
TOTAL: 37.17

Another one in 2007: Asia1 - USA/Canada (75,000 miles)
BKK-JFK (TG Y)
LGA-YYZ (AC Y)
YYZ-IAD (UA Y)
IAD-JFK (UA Y)
JFK-BKK (TG Y)

cost me:
$17.00 - Canada Security Charge
$ 1.20 - GST
$82.48 - Taxes
PLUS
$30.00 - Aeroplan Service Fee
$ 1.80 - GST
TOTAL: $132.48

500 miles at a time Jun 19, 2009 7:29 am

yyz-las-yyz (ac) - $147.49

yyz-fra-fco...vce-fra-yyz (lh) - $121.65


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