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taupo Mar 17, 2008 7:23 pm

Come to think of it, the GAs should no longer ask me for picture ID given the amount I fly, don't they know who I am.

Next time I'm pulled over by the police, I'll see how they are with not requiring a DL.

AnselmAdorne Mar 17, 2008 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by jezsik (Post 9423705)
Air Canada wants me to carry around a card I use only once per trip?

Life is brutal, isn't it?

flyeryvr Mar 17, 2008 7:53 pm


Originally Posted by taupo (Post 9425128)
Come to think of it, the GAs should no longer ask me for picture ID given the amount I fly, don't they know who I am.

Next time I'm pulled over by the police, I'll see how they are with not requiring a DL.

Clever but not really analogous to requiring TWO forms of documentation to confirm the same thing. I think you missed my point completely, which wasn't about the weight of a card, or whether the requirement is published clearly. Perhaps the police officer should require both a valid drivers license and a passport - to ensure the drivers license which he/she has in their system anyway is actually valid.

Simon Mar 17, 2008 7:54 pm

This is yet another tragic travesty [TM]!!

I also resent having to show my BP to those people in the lounge. What business is it of them what my name is?? :mad:

Simon

Simon Mar 17, 2008 7:58 pm

Further: all the BP does is confirm that you had status when you made the reservation. Not today.

I wonder as well whether in swiping it, they can be sure that there has not been a "hand back" of the card to someone else...

jezsik Mar 18, 2008 6:46 am

Wow, I guess some folks love hauling around a wallet stuffed with every frickin' card ever given to them, but I'm not part of that crowd. I try to keep the bare minimum in my back pocket. Turning the card into a luggage tag is a good one (I just have to remember to change tags when I change bags).

Most organizations recognize that all they really need to determine your status is your membership number (and a photo ID if necessary) - plug it in and your worthiness is established. For some reason, this simple solution has escaped the brilliant minds that run the Air Canada lounges (and a few folks here, I guess).

Since it appears to be lost on a few people, I'll explain "the straw that broke the camel's back." It's an ancient Arab proverb which refers to loading a camel beyond its capacity by the addition of a single straw. It's used to remind us how a cataclysmic failure is achieved by a seemingly inconsequential addition. The phrase "the last straw," used when something is deemed to be the last in a line of unacceptable occurrences, also comes from this proverb. Hope this helps!

The Ivory Actuary Mar 18, 2008 8:52 am


Originally Posted by jezsik (Post 9426801)
Turning the card into a luggage tag is a good one (I just have to remember to change tags when I change bags).

You could just put them ALL on your bag and become the King of DYKWIA. It would also make a cool rattling sound as you walked through the terminal, so other passengers would know the King was approaching before they even saw him. :cool:

willflyforfood Mar 18, 2008 9:07 am


Originally Posted by zorn (Post 9425075)
Five grams?

(That's what my kitchen scale said about my E card.)

More lies! Mine weighs in at 6.2 grams...I guess all the extra letters tip the scales!;)

newfbc Mar 18, 2008 11:11 am

One of the main purposes of loyalty cards is tracking consumer habits... maybe Air Canada wants a definate answer on who, and how often you're actually using the lounge?

Ron.

Shareholder Mar 18, 2008 11:17 am


Originally Posted by taupo (Post 9425128)
Next time I'm pulled over by the police, I'll see how they are with not requiring a DL.

Well, I can think of one police officer who may not ask to see your ID...at least I hope that's the case! ;)

uselessheadrest Mar 18, 2008 11:20 am


Originally Posted by taupo (Post 9425114)

Maybe I'll tell the next merchant I deal with in person, that they should take my word on the CC number I rattled off verbatim, no need for the card itself.

HA! You *read* my mind!!!!!!!!!!! ^^

uselessheadrest Mar 18, 2008 11:27 am


Originally Posted by jezsik (Post 9426801)
Wow, I guess some folks love hauling around a wallet stuffed with every frickin' card ever given to them, but I'm not part of that crowd. I try to keep the bare minimum in my back pocket. Turning the card into a luggage tag is a good one (I just have to remember to change tags when I change bags).

I actually stopped carrying a wallet years ago. I now just have a little card holder thing that I got when I used to work at the bank. It happily holds my license, health card, two CCs and my ATM card, along with Costco, and *gasp*, my AP card!!!! Very lightweight, and I'm no longer developing a callous on my ... from sitting on an overstuffed wallet all day!

Remember back in the day when you had two car keys -- one for the door locks and one for the ignition? The happiest day of your life must have been when you got your first car that only had ONE key!!! You must have strutted around a LOT faster after you got rid of THAT dead weight!!!!!!!!

Shareholder Mar 18, 2008 11:27 am


Originally Posted by jezsik (Post 9426801)
Wow, I guess some folks love hauling around a wallet stuffed with every frickin' card ever given to them, but I'm not part of that crowd. I try to keep the bare minimum in my back pocket. Turning the card into a luggage tag is a good one (I just have to remember to change tags when I change bags).

Most organizations recognize that all they really need to determine your status is your membership number (and a photo ID if necessary) - plug it in and your worthiness is established. For some reason, this simple solution has escaped the brilliant minds that run the Air Canada lounges (and a few folks here, I guess).

Since it appears to be lost on a few people, I'll explain "the straw that broke the camel's back." It's an ancient Arab proverb which refers to loading a camel beyond its capacity by the addition of a single straw. It's used to remind us how a cataclysmic failure is achieved by a seemingly inconsequential addition. The phrase "the last straw," used when something is deemed to be the last in a line of unacceptable occurrences, also comes from this proverb. Hope this helps!


When you travel on business do you not carry a briefcase or similar item that holds your papers and other necessary items? I can't see how adding one more card -- or set of travel cards -- into that case is such a big thing? Most travelers actually have a separate folio in which they keep travel papers, passport, receipts and membership cards they're likely to be using on the trip. It's called organization. Basic travel documentation is certainly not a Last Straw. Only a slob would stick all his cards into a fat wallet bulging out of a rear pocket! But if that's the image you are happy to convey, it says a lot about why you think this is a stupid requirement.

uselessheadrest Mar 18, 2008 11:28 am


Originally Posted by Shareholder (Post 9428165)
When you travel on business do you not carry a briefcase or similar item that holds your papers and other necessary items? I can't see how adding one more card -- or set of travel cards -- into that case is such a big thing? Most travelers actually have a separate folio in which they keep travel papers, passport, receipts and membership cards they're likely to be using on the trip. It's called organization. Basic travel documentation is certainly not a Last Straw. Only a slob would stick all his cards into a fat wallet bulging out of a rear pocket! But if that's the image you are happy to convey, it says a lot about why you think this is a stupid requirement.

Touche!

ceaton Mar 18, 2008 11:38 am


Originally Posted by taupo (Post 9425128)
Come to think of it, the GAs should no longer ask me for picture ID given the amount I fly, don't they know who I am.
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When I lost my wallet on a trip, I actually got away with that. Once. It was probably very illegal though. Being on the same flights every week helps.


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