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GUWonder Mar 6, 2007 11:12 am

I like the AC E75s that I've flown between Chicago and Toronto. The seats and IFE are good.

Shareholder Mar 6, 2007 11:44 am


Originally Posted by East-West AC (Post 7340578)
FT postings weren't the reason why ACHorizons was shut down. All employees and retirees finally had access to the corporate portal, which allowed access behind the firewall, like every other major company in the world.

Does Clive have access to this site yet?

Shareholder Mar 6, 2007 11:49 am

That probably explains why my flight from YEG to YYZ tonight shows as [back to] a A320 rather than the E90 that had been operating this flight for most of the winter. Will be interesting to see what it turns out to be in reality, and if it is an A320, if it will be an XM. I've found lots of aircraft changes on day-of-flight, including as I've noted before E90s for E75s, CRJs for DASH8s and A320s for A319s (likely due to larger loads on some routes).

LeSabre74 Mar 6, 2007 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by Sebring (Post 7338279)
A large part of the plane's troubles have been tracable to the very cold weather we have been having. With temperatures starting to creep up, the problems have been diminishing. I wouldn't hestiate to book one myself. Basically, I like to do the opposite of Why Fly says. Usually works out much better.

Gee, cold weather in Canada, who'd have thought:rolleyes: Obviously not Embraer. Temps haven't been far outside the norm. Nice to see that someone at AC finally ackonwledged the problem with these planes.

Sebring Mar 6, 2007 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by LeSabre74 (Post 7352899)
Temps haven't been far outside the norm.

Maybe in Vancouver but here in Toronto we had the coldest February in 28 years, fifth coldest ever, and it's minus 12 here today.

Stranger Mar 6, 2007 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by Sebring (Post 7353170)
Maybe in Vancouver but here in Toronto we had the coldest February in 28 years, fifth coldest ever, and it's minus 12 here today.

That may be Toronto's coldest. But that's not cold.

One would hope that AC does not look at planes and low temperature operation by the Center of The Universe (tm) standards.

why fly Mar 6, 2007 8:39 pm


Originally Posted by Super Larry (Post 7338236)
This is heresy in whyfly's eyes! He hates AC as much as he hates BBD!!!;)

I dont hate BBD I hate taxpayers $ paying for them.

Oh and the E75 and E90 will be going in for repair jobs soon... read all about it;) Jetblue just got some "rentals" so they can send the plane in for a refit.
AC should announce something similar soon.

It might be hard for "others" on here to admit the planes have some issues. THey dont deal in facts:D

Simon Mar 7, 2007 12:23 am

That's a pretty rich statement. How about "RM bankrupted a monopoly" ?

wirez666 Mar 7, 2007 1:01 am

Heard on the radio today that Jetblue will be grounding its Embraer fleet to fix software glitches.

Stranger Mar 7, 2007 7:19 am


Originally Posted by Simon (Post 7356059)
How about "RM bankrupted a monopoly" ?

Just wait until the next recession.

:D

LeSabre74 Mar 7, 2007 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by Sebring (Post 7353170)
Maybe in Vancouver but here in Toronto we had the coldest February in 28 years, fifth coldest ever, and it's minus 12 here today.

But those are one day records in one spot. Temps haven't been seen that don't occur often in Canada (not just the centre of the universe). It appears Embraer did not do sufficient cold weather testing IMHO. And the problems Montie mentions, are they different from B6's software glitches, and will AC have to deal with those to? EMB better hope the patch-ups work, or there could be a real effect on sales. I hope AC has some warranty protection on this.

cur Mar 7, 2007 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by airbus320 (Post 7336388)
This is not a surprise.

First/second buyers of a new aircraft type most always are the proverbial guinea pigs who experience various aircraft snags.

...from the Jungle Jet manufacturer..

Carioca Canuck Mar 9, 2007 9:11 am


Originally Posted by Snow Goose
In the FA's opinion, the Brazilian aircraft maker's planes were not well suited to winter flying in Canada.

It is colder at 35K + feet AGL than it ever gets on the ground in Canada.......whether flying over Brasilian airspace or the Canadian Rockies......on any day of the year. If a plane spends 4 hours at altitude where it is much colder, I doubt 4 hours parked on the ground is the problem as it relates to temps.

The line about it not being sufficiently cold weather tested IMHO is a red herring.

If the planes have issues IMHO they are not related to this. And all the E flights I have been on didn't have any problems that were equipment related.

LGA_Joe_YUL Mar 9, 2007 10:39 am

Was speaking to an AC Res. Agent today and he recalled the Airbuses going through the same type of teething problems some 15 years ago. FWIW, I really appreciate the speed, comfort and AVOD on the E75 and E90. Just booked another flight on the E90. Interesting too, but OT, I booked a 777 from Montreal to Toronto on AC for 8 April...

Ace Cdn Mar 9, 2007 10:58 am

had a flight booked for today it has been swapped out for airbus equipment.


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