Using SWUs for multiple sectors
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Using SWUs for multiple sectors
Hi all
Is there a limit to the number of sectors you can upgrade with a single SWU, provided there is nothing that qualifies as a "stopover" in between them? As part of a RTW we're flying JFK-YVR-YYJ-YVR-SYD all on one day, with just under 4 hours in YYJ (the YYR-YYJ-YVR segments are on AC Jazz Dash-8 with no business class). Should we be able to upgrade JFK-YVR-SYD with one SWU apiece or would we need 2?
Also, is the number of certs affected by when/if the individual upgrades clear? Eg if we got the JFK-YVR upgrade but at the time of checking in at JFK the YVR-SYD upgrade was still waitlisted but subsequently cleared in YVR, would we be asked for another SWU at YVR?
I'm confused!
Any advice welcomed... Thanks!
Is there a limit to the number of sectors you can upgrade with a single SWU, provided there is nothing that qualifies as a "stopover" in between them? As part of a RTW we're flying JFK-YVR-YYJ-YVR-SYD all on one day, with just under 4 hours in YYJ (the YYR-YYJ-YVR segments are on AC Jazz Dash-8 with no business class). Should we be able to upgrade JFK-YVR-SYD with one SWU apiece or would we need 2?
Also, is the number of certs affected by when/if the individual upgrades clear? Eg if we got the JFK-YVR upgrade but at the time of checking in at JFK the YVR-SYD upgrade was still waitlisted but subsequently cleared in YVR, would we be asked for another SWU at YVR?
I'm confused!
Any advice welcomed... Thanks!
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1 upgrade cert is good for origin to destination including connections. Check your ticket to see if it shows YVR, YYJ, YVR as a connection on your way to SYD; if not, then you'll need 2 cert. One for JFK-YVR and another for YVR-SYD. Assuming it shows as a cnx, then if your JFK-YVR cleared at ckin, then they can notate your record so agent won't ask for another one in YVR.
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1 upgrade cert is good for origin to destination including connections. Check your ticket to see if it shows YVR, YYJ, YVR as a connection on your way to SYD; if not, then you'll need 2 cert. One for JFK-YVR and another for YVR-SYD. Assuming it shows as a cnx, then if your JFK-YVR cleared at ckin, then they can notate your record so agent won't ask for another one in YVR.
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Bump...
What is the rule if one is travelling on two PNR's, but the connection time is within 4 hours for domestic and / or 24 hours for an international? Can we use one upgrade or are two required?
What is the rule if one is travelling on two PNR's, but the connection time is within 4 hours for domestic and / or 24 hours for an international? Can we use one upgrade or are two required?
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Unlikely you can use a single cert, considering they don't even check baggage through on separate PNR's anymore.
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The wording on the Certs does say valid for origin to destination upgrade including connections, so although it'd probably be a hassle to notate the second booking with remarks that the cert has been lifted, it should feasibly be able to be done AFAIK. Stand to be corrected.
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In the case of domestic-to-domestic cnx which are part of an international itinerary, does the 4h rule or the 24h rule apply?
E.g. if one flew something like YVR-YUL-YYZ-LHR with a stop in YUL of more than 4h but less than 24h, would one be able to use a single cert for all legs?
E.g. if one flew something like YVR-YUL-YYZ-LHR with a stop in YUL of more than 4h but less than 24h, would one be able to use a single cert for all legs?
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OK, let me make my hypothetical itinerary really extreme, so you'll see what I'm getting at:
Monday: LAX-YVR AC555 Dep 1545 Arr 1845
Tuesday: YVR-YUL AC112 Dep 1415 Arr 2155
Wednesday: YUL-YYZ AC427 Dep 2000 Arr 2120
Thursday: YYZ-LHR AC848 Dep 2020 Arr 0835
(This isn't actually a valid itinerary, though there are itins that allow this many stops)
Could one stretch a single SWU to upgrade on all 4 flights, since each of the stops is less than 24h? And even it were possible in theory, wouldn't the agents at YYZ on Thursday get a bit shirty on being told that the cert was uplifted at LAX on Monday?
Monday: LAX-YVR AC555 Dep 1545 Arr 1845
Tuesday: YVR-YUL AC112 Dep 1415 Arr 2155
Wednesday: YUL-YYZ AC427 Dep 2000 Arr 2120
Thursday: YYZ-LHR AC848 Dep 2020 Arr 0835
(This isn't actually a valid itinerary, though there are itins that allow this many stops)
Could one stretch a single SWU to upgrade on all 4 flights, since each of the stops is less than 24h? And even it were possible in theory, wouldn't the agents at YYZ on Thursday get a bit shirty on being told that the cert was uplifted at LAX on Monday?

