Mad as Hell J5I5 to J5I1 30 mins to midnight
Nov 6, 2006, 1:37 pm
#31
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Originally Posted by Golden Toque
YWG-YYZ-ORD Nov 16th - 20th
tango + $154
Lat $234
This is the best deal I have seen since flying to YEG last year where Executive was $1 less than Latitude ;-)
GT
tango + $154
Lat $234
This is the best deal I have seen since flying to YEG last year where Executive was $1 less than Latitude ;-)
GT
And to the comment regarding different routings providing different upsell rates...I don't think I've ever noticed that, but I also haven't looked either...I'll keep my eye out in the future. Thanks for the tip...
Nov 6, 2006, 1:38 pm
#32
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Originally Posted by shore9
this really sounds like a route controller taking out I. Considering J5 stays constant throughout the period of time we are talking it makes no sense. If in fact 4 people did call for the upgrade, would it not go down to J1??
Nov 6, 2006, 2:12 pm
#34
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One possible scenario is gamesmanship:
I want to ensure I have a J class ticket.
I buy 2 tickets in J class.
As the window approaches, I is open.
I call and have myself "downgraded" to Y/M/whatever.
I then upgrade to I class.
J for sale = J before
I available = 2 less than before
Simon
I want to ensure I have a J class ticket.
I buy 2 tickets in J class.
As the window approaches, I is open.
I call and have myself "downgraded" to Y/M/whatever.
I then upgrade to I class.
J for sale = J before
I available = 2 less than before
Simon
Nov 6, 2006, 2:23 pm
#35
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Originally Posted by Simon
One possible scenario is gamesmanship:
I want to ensure I have a J class ticket.
I buy 2 tickets in J class.
As the window approaches, I is open.
I call and have myself "downgraded" to Y/M/whatever.
I then upgrade to I class.
J for sale = J before
I available = 2 less than before
Simon
I want to ensure I have a J class ticket.
I buy 2 tickets in J class.
As the window approaches, I is open.
I call and have myself "downgraded" to Y/M/whatever.
I then upgrade to I class.
J for sale = J before
I available = 2 less than before
Simon
Nov 6, 2006, 2:29 pm
#36
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Originally Posted by k22
Waiting for midnight for 2 upgrades at 7 day window. Checked an hour ago (22.50) J5I5, no problem. Checked at 11.30, J5I1. What happened? Should I be suspicious?
DF
Nov 6, 2006, 2:30 pm
#37
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Nope. I would have held 2 J seats before making the change, and 2 J seats after the downfare/upgrade (via I class). So J would remain the same, I would drop by 2.
Simon
Simon
Nov 6, 2006, 2:37 pm
#38
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Originally Posted by Simon
Nope. I would have held 2 J seats before making the change, and 2 J seats after the downfare/upgrade (via I class). So J would remain the same, I would drop by 2.
Simon
Simon
Nov 6, 2006, 2:44 pm
#39
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Originally Posted by Doc Fraud
What did the rest of the buckets look like. I know if I was flying on a transatlantic for example and I saw J5 I5, I would immediately book Y and upgrade to J at booking. The problem I run into is J5 I0 and it getting close to flight day, so I would say that the discrepancy may be due to guys like me
DF
DF
Nov 6, 2006, 2:58 pm
#41
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Originally Posted by acysb87
Is this where I + I does not equal 2? 
Nov 6, 2006, 3:06 pm
#42
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Originally Posted by IluvSQ
Is it not possible that the 4 upgrades went, perhaps to 2 different callers for 2
seats each? "I" going down does not affect J inventory.
Yes, they may have " scammed" the sytem re: time zones.
But many people on this board have been instructing us how to do so.
seats each? "I" going down does not affect J inventory.
Yes, they may have " scammed" the sytem re: time zones.
But many people on this board have been instructing us how to do so.
Nov 6, 2006, 3:21 pm
#43
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Originally Posted by k22
It was bizarre. J5I5 an hour before midnight to J5I1 just before midnight. After I received the one upgrade it went to J4I0. It remains there right now.
I think S9 makes a good point. If four upgrades had been given away before midnight, it should have fallen to J1I1.
I think S9 makes a good point. If four upgrades had been given away before midnight, it should have fallen to J1I1.
Nov 6, 2006, 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Argonaut1000
Is it not possible that the load in Y changed, shifting the available I automatically?
Nov 6, 2006, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by shore9
Don't forget J is the lead fare bucket, so when C or I is reduced, J is also reduced.
So if a flight shows J9 C5 I2, and a pax comes and books a segment in C class, are you actually saying that J9 must change to J8 in addition to the C5 becoming C4!?!
If so, then that is completely incorrect.