Air Canada B767-300 ER lie flat seats
Oct 10, 2006, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by why fly
I think AC will need the 777-200 to do this route... None of those are coming in 2007. So this might still be smoke and mirrors from AC. 
AC has said the 777-300 cant do HKG-YYZ thats 7700 miles LAX-SYD is 7500 miles. YVR-SYD is the same as HKG 7700miles.
However maybe some of the experts can tell us ??? are the winds better going to SYD? so the 777-300 can make it? Also if AC thinks its a great market for J seats...... interesting they will put a 777 on with the worst % of Premium seats.
AC has said the 777-300 cant do HKG-YYZ thats 7700 miles LAX-SYD is 7500 miles. YVR-SYD is the same as HKG 7700miles.
However maybe some of the experts can tell us ??? are the winds better going to SYD? so the 777-300 can make it? Also if AC thinks its a great market for J seats...... interesting they will put a 777 on with the worst % of Premium seats.
Range of the 300ER is 7880 NM according to Boeing or about 15 hours of flying.
LAX-SYD is 6507NM or about 14.5 hours on the outbound segment. This should be no problem for the 300ER.
Oct 10, 2006, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by Q Shoe Guy
Why would AC want more junk when they can get new made to their specs?
I still say they could have gotten a good deal and less headaches too.
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Oct 10, 2006, 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by imverge
So AC's 767's? (more junk as your mention?) is how much older than the 777's? AC is eventually getting rid of them and moving to the family of 777's / 787's. Make sense to keep the same models in the fleet.
I still say they could have gotten a good deal and less headaches too.
I still say they could have gotten a good deal and less headaches too.
Bottom line, they'd end up having "similar" but quite different models in the fleet with likely a lot of duplicated parts. I'm sure they already have enough problems with all the different variants of 767 in the fleet!
I suspect AC is also giving themselves flexibility to either replace the 767 fleet OR grow ASM by retaining the option of keeping the 767's for an exteneded period flying short-medium routes and using the 787's for thin long and ultralong haul.
Oct 10, 2006, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330
ACs Investor presentations state they are receiving both the 300ER and 200LR next year.
Range of the 300ER is 7880 NM according to Boeing or about 15 hours of flying.
LAX-SYD is 6507NM or about 14.5 hours on the outbound segment. This should be no problem for the 300ER.
Range of the 300ER is 7880 NM according to Boeing or about 15 hours of flying.
LAX-SYD is 6507NM or about 14.5 hours on the outbound segment. This should be no problem for the 300ER.
Oct 10, 2006, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by why fly
Well AC said the 777-300 can't do HKG so its got to be tight for LAX-SYD... and YVR-SYD is a no go...... I assume AC must be ordering 777-300 that don't have the 7880 range?
If the A343 can do SYD-YVR non stop, then I can't see the 773ER having issues.
Oct 10, 2006, 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330
Hard to compare routes like that as the wind has to be taken into consideration. For example: YYZ-HKG is only ~200NM longer thanLAX-SYD, but it's up to 2 hours longer.
If the A343 can do SYD-YVR non stop, then I can't see the 773ER having issues.
If the A343 can do SYD-YVR non stop, then I can't see the 773ER having issues.
So its the winds for SYD.... but AC anly did the 343 for a few months SYD-YVR so can it do it year round?