OT: Harmony to codeshare to Sydney
Jun 12, 2006 | 10:31 am
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OT: Harmony to codeshare to Sydney
Harmony Airways has applied to US DoT (PDF) for services to inter Hawaiian islands plus Sydney, Australia, through a codeshare agreement with Hawaiian Airlines. Docket number is 25054
Harmony's "HQ" code will be appearing on Hawaiian Airlines':
Honolulu-Hilo
Honolulu-Kahului
Honolulu-Kona
Honolulu-Lihue
Kona-Kahului
Lihue-Kahului
Hilo-Kahului
Honolulu-Sydney
Codeshare service should be launched within 45 days, it seems.
Harmony's "HQ" code will be appearing on Hawaiian Airlines':
Honolulu-Hilo
Honolulu-Kahului
Honolulu-Kona
Honolulu-Lihue
Kona-Kahului
Lihue-Kahului
Hilo-Kahului
Honolulu-Sydney
Codeshare service should be launched within 45 days, it seems.
Jun 12, 2006 | 10:54 am
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Huh. Well, HQ is certainly taking advantage of codeshare relationships, aren't they..
To think, you could fly YHZ-SYD on an HQ code the whole way. And the funny thing is, AC would probably put you on the same routing (YHZ-YYZ-YVR-HNL-SYD).
But how is HQ going to get the CA-AU route authority? I didn't think we had open skies yet..
To think, you could fly YHZ-SYD on an HQ code the whole way. And the funny thing is, AC would probably put you on the same routing (YHZ-YYZ-YVR-HNL-SYD).
But how is HQ going to get the CA-AU route authority? I didn't think we had open skies yet..
Jun 12, 2006 | 11:47 am
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The CA-US agreement allows for open third/fourth and fifth freedom codesharing, and CA-AU agreement allows for third country codesharing via any intermediate points to any point in Australia and to any points beyond.
http://www.cta-otc.gc.ca/air-aerien/...stralia_e.html
http://www.cta-otc.gc.ca/air-aerien/...stralia_e.html
Jun 12, 2006 | 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by YOWkid
The CA-US agreement allows for open third/fourth and fifth freedom codesharing, and CA-AU agreement allows for third country codesharing via any intermediate points to any point in Australia and to any points beyond.
Jun 12, 2006 | 6:55 pm
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As it stands now, I'm only seeing HA doing HNL-SYD on Tue., Thurs. & Sat. and the HQ YVR-HNL on Sun., Thurs. & Fri., so only day the connection works is Thurs., though the connections times aren't bad as HQ arrives HNL at 1115 and HA leaves at 1235. This could be a lighter winter schedule downunder with more frequent summer service planned, but not lots of choice and having much more frequent AC service I can't see it being much competition. Good deal for HQ however.
Jun 13, 2006 | 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by AnselmAdorne
It takes a special mind to understand that stuff. Just think of what it takes to write it in the first place. 
Jun 13, 2006 | 6:04 am
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Originally Posted by oopsz
I'm sure they'll coordinate schedules once the codeshare is approved. I doubt HMY will go in with only one flight a week.
There should be no reason why they shouldn't get approved to operate the service (in theory and on the service of things at least as there are no air safety/security issues given that they already operate to the US).
Jun 13, 2006 | 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by YOWkid
Think of what it takes to negotiate and to get the other party to agree with it!