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tcook052 Apr 22, 2006 12:35 am


Originally Posted by Coffeebean
Suspended

Too much coffee, I guess... ;)

YYC-OPS Apr 22, 2006 1:12 am


Originally Posted by Coffeebean
They'll lose buckets flying domestic sched. They are already losing buckets, so nothing really changes....

If Harmony gets an airplane that'll fly reach Asia, they'll have 3 different fleet types, likely with fewer than a dozen aircraft in the fleet. Now that's smarts..... :D

Anybody in the business would take $250K a month NG's or Airbus narrow bodies over $25K a month F100's. That's how bad they are. My stomach heaves at the operating economics of those slugs.

I guess somebody is spending daddy's money.

;)

Sadly, Coffee is out of the loop on this one. Harmony's fleet plans will be released to the public in due course, but suffice to say that CB's legendary 'inside information' seems to have led him to draw some false conclusions this time round...

Better luck next time CB...

Fisch Apr 22, 2006 2:47 am

This is a funny read... If all the doughnut eaters in Canada were allowed to run Tim Horton's like some of you would like to run various airlines, the doughnut industry would be a disaster.

My job depends on the airline industry, and I thank god almost none of you are involved in decision making in this industry.

'....Thinking about what we speak of... It's a revolution! Get onboard!'

parnel Apr 22, 2006 3:48 am


Originally Posted by Fisch
'....Thinking about what we speak of... It's a revolution! Get onboard!'

We do...too bad you got a job with the wrong airline.......you could be doing YYZ/HKG as opposed to YLM/YMM ;)

Cargoagent Apr 22, 2006 7:50 am


Originally Posted by Fisch

My job depends on the airline industry, and I thank god almost none of you are involved in decision making in this industry.

Hopefully your including CB in that group. He's done enough damage already.

exAC Apr 22, 2006 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by tcook052
Too much coffee, I guess... ;)

What did he do this time?

autobrakes Apr 22, 2006 9:41 pm

You know, reading this thread is entertaining.

All the experts. LeSabre, Simon, YYC OPS, and of course, parnel. What a concentration of expertise. What did Mike and Dana say? Oh ya, "We're not worthy!"

The F100 is right where it should be. Parked in the Mojave, next to the CV-880s and BAE-146s.

There was a gentleman who worked at WS who had a 30+ year career analyzing aircraft types for numerous airlines. When Jetsgo announced the F100 buy, I asked him what he thought. "They'll be gone within 6 months of starting to operate that airplane. The only worse type is the 146". I guess he was a little too generous.

You wanted imperical data. Coffee Bean gave it to you. Then you blast off on ridiculous tangents.

Coffee Bean has forgotten more about this industry than you armchair QBs will ever learn.

Just so ya know.

exAC Apr 22, 2006 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by autobrakes
....Coffee Bean has forgotten more about this industry than you armchair QBs will ever learn.

Just so ya know.

B.S.

Simon Apr 23, 2006 9:37 am


Originally Posted by autobrakes
All the experts. LeSabre, Simon, YYC OPS, and of course, parnel. What a concentration of expertise.

You know, it really says a lot that you are able to judge someone brand new like YYC OPS as (in your view) having zero expertise because he disagrees with WS Uber Alles.


You wanted imperical data. Coffee Bean gave it to you. Then you blast off on ridiculous tangents.

Coffee Bean has forgotten more about this industry than you armchair QBs will ever learn.
Didn't CB say that exact thing about Mark Hill when he first showed up here?

Simon

LeSabre74 Apr 23, 2006 9:56 am


Originally Posted by autobrakes
You know, reading this thread is entertaining.

All the experts. LeSabre, Simon, YYC OPS, and of course, parnel. What a concentration of expertise. What did Mike and Dana say? Oh ya, "We're not worthy!".....Coffee Bean has forgotten more about this industry than you armchair QBs will ever learn.

Just so ya know.

Sounds like all the Westjitters here have a shrine to the mighty bean in their home. Part of the cult?

Mr. bean would have garnered more respect if he was able to give a balanced assessment of WS. Sadly he couldn't even bring himself to say anything remotely critical, couldn't even bear to comment on your lack of a pension plan. Sad really.

parnel Apr 23, 2006 9:58 am

[QUOTE=autobrakes]

You know, reading this thread is entertaining.

And reading your post is simply hilarious.


All the experts. LeSabre, Simon, YYC OPS, and of course, parnel. What a concentration of expertise. What did Mike and Dana say? Oh ya, "We're not worthy!"
We've not seen your brainiac thoughts here.


You wanted imperical data. Coffee Bean gave it to you. Then you blast off on ridiculous tangents.

Coffee Bean has forgotten more about this industry than you armchair QBs will ever learn.
He can only discuss asm/casm/prasm and mosty spasm. Wehjn one gets down to nitty gritty details or other aspects of the business he gets lost and then goes into bamboozle mode!!


Just so ya know.
Thanks for the update....but I remain unconverted.

parnel Apr 23, 2006 10:00 am

[QUOTE=LeSabre74]

Sounds like all the Westjitters here have a shrine to the mighty bean in their home. Part of the cult?
I have a theory that he maybe the cult



Mr. bean would have garnered more respect if he was able to give a balanced assessment of WS. Sadly he couldn't even bring himself to say anything remotely critical, couldn't even bear to comment on your lack of a pension plan. Sad really.
Nor would he discuss the share price problem Wetjet appears to have.

YYC-OPS Apr 23, 2006 11:30 am


Originally Posted by autobrakes
You know, reading this thread is entertaining.

All the experts. LeSabre, Simon, YYC OPS, and of course, parnel. What a concentration of expertise. What did Mike and Dana say? Oh ya, "We're not worthy!"

Errrr - where did that come from??!! I'm not professing to be an expert, just relating my experiences or thoughts from within the industry... If you feel that makes me an 'armchair QB'..... :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by autobrakes
The F100 is right where it should be. Parked in the Mojave, next to the CV-880s and BAE-146s.

You wanted imperical data. Coffee Bean gave it to you. Then you blast off on ridiculous tangents..

Nope - no tangent - in fact, my only comment was that Harmony's fleet plans will be announced in due course - maybe people shouldn't get too worked up about the Fokker (or any other aircraft) until the final announcement is made - might save some undue effort! ;)

bcflyer Apr 23, 2006 2:08 pm

Coffebean, I'm kinda curious where came up with those numbers? Can you provide a link for them so we can see the source for ourselves? There are quite a few European operators running F-100's and have been for some time now. They seem to be doing just fine with them.
P.S. Jetsgo's demise had very little to do with the cost of running the F-100.

why fly Apr 23, 2006 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by autobrakes

Coffee Bean has forgotten more about this industry than you armchair QBs will ever learn.

Just so ya know.

Just hope you will be back to POST after you find out Harmony is not going to use those planes :D
Hope you won't be forgotten.... ;)

Just so ya know.


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