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Crampedin13A Nov 22, 2004 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by shore9
Well the flight is for my parents, not me. I'm just trying to help them get there cheaply in J, as that's what they want. And I really don't want to see them get screwed over like that. Now how many here would take 2800 dollars for 85K AP miles, or 5600 dollars for 170K AP miles, this is only directed at SE's, as they'd have to use instant KK. I'm not asking anyone here to buy me 2 tickets using their miles, but out of curiosity, who would do that?

I'm not an SE but if I was I'd certainly take that money and then use it later with an SWU on an M fare and upgrade at booking for a transatlantic .:D

Great way of dumping unuseable AP miles. But alas I'm only an E.

shore9 Nov 22, 2004 10:04 pm


Originally Posted by Crampedin13A
I'm not an SE but if I was I'd certainly take that money and then use it later with an SWU on an M fare and upgrade at booking for a transatlantic .:D

Great way of dumping unuseable AP miles. But alas I'm only an E.

Well I suggested to my dad that he fly to YYZ or something, as he could go visit some friends or something and get the miles and then upgrade from an M fare. But apparently he doesn't want to do that. Even as a prestige though, he'd still have to buy another 3 SWU's off ebay, so I guess the BA option works out cheaper.

Andrew Yiu Nov 22, 2004 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by shore9
As my dad is not likely to get prestige for next year


then upgrade from an M fare. But apparently he doesn't want to do that.
As per Aeroplan's program rules at this moment, a basic member cannot upgrade from M fare.

Andrew Yiu Nov 22, 2004 10:09 pm


Originally Posted by shore9
as they'd have to use instant KK.

Instant KK + AMS/LHR :confused:

FlyerGoldII Nov 22, 2004 10:21 pm


Originally Posted by cedric
Hint 2: SEA-AMS prices out to C$2977 per person on a US fare basis on UA metal through IAD. Booking class Z.

If one, with either no status, or basic status with Aeroplan, wanted to go next summer from Canada to Western Europe on one or more Star Alliance carrier(s), and one did not want to break any airline/frequent flyer program rules, I guess the cheapest way (forgetting 2 for 1 tickets, or any similar discount promotion) is to find a consolidator who sells "discounted" business class tickets.

In Central Canada, which are some of the most reputable and busiest travel agencies which act as consolidators (especially for business class tickets from Canada to Europe) that the FT participants can recommend?

shore9 Nov 22, 2004 11:03 pm

I meant that my dad does an MR to YYZ or somewhere like that, and get the miles that he needs to get prestige status. Then he could upgrade to LHR from an M fare. Getting from LHR - AMS is something my parents don't really care what airline they fly. YVR - LHR is what they want J for.

Simon Nov 23, 2004 9:08 am


Originally Posted by shore9
Even as a prestige though, he'd still have to buy another 3 SWU's off ebay

...and violate program rules.


Originally Posted by shore0
Now how many here would take 2800 dollars for 85K AP miles, or 5600 dollars for 170K AP miles, this is only directed at SE's, as they'd have to use instant KK.

...and, I'm pretty sure, violate program rules.


Originally Posted by shore9
I meant that my dad does an MR to YYZ or somewhere like that

A YVR-YYZ MR? Wow.

When did the concern about paying high fares for J tickets kick in? What were the YVR-YYZ R/T J fares about, oh, say a year ago?

Simon

shore9 Nov 23, 2004 9:32 am

well if you say buying SWU's off ebay, then I would think that trading them is also not legal.

Simon Nov 23, 2004 9:44 am


This certificate cannot be sold [...] and is void if altered or sold.
"I'm sorry sir, it has come to our attention that you are using an illegaly acquired certificate. As such, your membership in Aeroplan has been cancelled." :eek:

shore9 Nov 23, 2004 10:01 am

Well is trading it not technically selling it as well, except instead of currency you're giving something else.

Swiss Tony Nov 23, 2004 10:26 am

Quick question...

If you're always right/know the answer to a question, why oh why oh why do you feel the need to waste your time posting here?

You may well recall this URL from a few months back - http://www.trials-shack.co.uk/posting.html - persoanlly I think it should be mandatory for all FTers...*

You know as well as the rest of us that buying an AC upgrade voucher from a member with cash is a violation of the rules. Your infantile claims that

Well is trading it not technically selling it as well, except instead of currency you're giving something else.
may be fodder for other places, but please just act a little more mature - for the sake of us all???

* I believe because I don't point the finger and suggest a specific user looks at this, this isn't a viloation of the ToS - please correct me if i'm wrong.

acysb87 Nov 23, 2004 11:13 am

[QUOTE=shore9] ...And I really don't want to see them get screwed over like that. .... QUOTE]


You use some very interesting terminology. ;)

qatar Nov 23, 2004 11:23 am

Speaking of legalities of fqtv points, i just read this on another forum.



UNITED RIP-OFF: FREQUENT-FLIER MILES VANISH
It took a decade for one Traveller to earn more than two-million frequent-flier miles on United Airlines. It took a single dispute over a ticket refund for him to lose his elite status, dozens of flight coupons and even every last mile he had collected.

How did the man, a technology consultant from Jacksonville, Florida, get all of his points confiscated? Like an increasing number of frequent fliers, a majority of them business Travellers, his mileage account was subjected to a secret audit by his airline. He says he learned of the review only when he checked in for a recent flight to Buenos Aires.

'I was ambushed,' he said. 'I was about to board the flight when a United Airlines supervisor at the gate said, 'We have something for you.' He handed me a letter that said I had been stripped of my status and miles as the result of an audit.'

He phoned a friend at United to find out what had happened. The employee retrieved his electronic flight record, which was even more damning than the letter. It claimed he had improperly used a denied-boarding certificate as partial payment for his ticket. It instructed United Airlines representatives to confiscate all of his flight upgrade coupons, discount vouchers and free tickets, and to collect an additional USD$977 for the flight to Chile, which included a USD$377 change fee and USD$600 for the use of 'bogus denied-boarding certificates.'

United acknowledged that it had removed the Traveller from its rewards program, but declined to discuss the particulars of his audit, 'out of respect for his privacy.'

ABG Nov 23, 2004 4:18 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
In Central Canada, which are some of the most reputable and busiest travel agencies which act as consolidators (especially for business class tickets from Canada to Europe) that the FT participants can recommend?

Consolidators generally don't deal front end with travellers... You'd have to ask your regular TA for fares. In general terms I can say that these airlines offer J class bulk fares: AF, LX, BA (In WT+), KL, OS.

Hey Shore9, why don't they just buy a T class BA ticket.... restrictive fare in World Traveller Plus. Something like $1400.00 + taxes to LHR from YVR. Look it up on BA.com

shore9 Nov 23, 2004 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by ABG
Consolidators generally don't deal front end with travellers... You'd have to ask your regular TA for fares. In general terms I can say that these airlines offer J class bulk fares: AF, LX, BA (In WT+), KL, OS.

Hey Shore9, why don't they just buy a T class BA ticket.... restrictive fare in World Traveller Plus. Something like $1400.00 + taxes to LHR from YVR. Look it up on BA.com

Well I know E+ on BA is nice, or at least it looks nice, they want they big comfy seats, that recline to 150 degrees


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