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Originally Posted by parnel
...where the real rednecks are.
.... Ref: our discussion of the firewall I hope that we are looking at making it go deep also, to keep out the tax sucking vermin from Ottawa that try to dig under it. |
Based on the shaky campaign that Martin ran, they will be much internal discussion about whether he should stay and for how long. |
Originally Posted by Ken hAAmer
Well, if Martin ran a "shaky campaign" and still won a psuedo-majority, then I don't think he really has anything to worry about. After all, they ain't the Conservatives.
There is a whole generation of Liberal insiders who consider it their birthright to have unfettered control of the country, and they think Martin almost blew it for them. While I agree there will not be any knives out for him right away, he has lost the messiah aura he had when he assumed the leadership and I don't think the party will be rushing back to the polls any time soon if they can help it. |
And then have the Who come play in Alberta only!
[and please don't make the wall out of garbage] (see: Simpsons)
Originally Posted by exAC
Memo to King Ralph:
Ref: our discussion of the firewall I hope that we are looking at making it go deep also, to keep out the tax sucking vermin from Ottawa that try to dig under it. |
Originally Posted by parnel
I vote we trade Alberta for Texas...even those red necks are less radical than the Alberta ones.
Viva Paul Martin and John Kerry! PS: From my American perspective, I was surprised that Belinda had such a difficult time winning in Newmarket-Aurora, I thought she was a shoe-in. |
Liberal's crude but ultimately effective scare tactics. Who'll be left when they come for me? |
Originally Posted by exAC
Memo to King Ralph:
Ref: our discussion of the firewall I hope that we are looking at making it go deep also, to keep out the tax sucking vermin from Ottawa that try to dig under it. Pre-Oil-> Alberta is a big farm, needing Federal subsidiary Now -> Oil soaked economy, rich, AAA rating but look down at other Canadian provinces and show contempt at just about everybody else Future-> When oil runs out... ??? Go ahead with the firewall, just don't ask for help when you need to tear it down. Oh and if you need to look a real example, watch B.C., pre-Asian bubble and now. Who's sucking who? :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by YUL
Just to give you some hints about the feelings of MOST BQ voters here (including myself):
Don't worry, we don't want any special treatments, we just want our taxes to be spent efficiently. [...] Please don't shoot the messager. I'm just providing a different view on how some Quebecers thinks. It's really not like wanting to have the cake and eating it too. They were 49.5% to think like that in 1995. I admit there are emotional voters (and not so logical) in there, but believe me they also exist on the other side. (And I realise that about nobody in this forum will share above ideas) |
Originally Posted by parnel
You didn't have to shove it down out throats twice.
BTW I am a Quebecer born there and have family who have lived in Quebec for four generations. I know as well how some Quebecers feel but they've just been lied to again by the chief blochead "douce bag". He said b/f the election that separation had nothing to do with this election that it was all about the Liberals lying and then today said it bodes well for separation. He can lie through his teeth because he's "pur laine" while the rest of us Tetes carres are supposed to lie down in front of him. Well F*** him;he or "Laundry bag" are not going to take my province out of confederation. The clarity act is well suited for that purpose and when I retire back in Montreal I will again take up my strong position against those separatist douce bags. Just remember that when Quebecers are asked if they want to have a non Canadian passport they answer 75% "non"; and that's the bottom line. Its the lobster pot that Parizeau tried to put them in with his trick question that nearly got them. The PQ and their puppets are masters of lies and deception. And I'll bet you money right now Charest will win the next election easily and the Blocheads will lose most of their seats in the next federal election in 18-24 months from now. Watch and see how douce bag tries to talk loud but do everything in his power to avoid another election because its downhill from here on in. He'll in reality be kissing Martin's a$$. Salut mon vieux. And now do you want to know how I really feel? :rolleyes: Duceppe only said that election was not about separation which will dealt with in Quebec (TRUE). He also said b/f election "it will bold well for the PQ if they succeed, and anybody who thinks otherwise is a crétin". And for the next provincial election, Charest has no capacity to govern and is failling every day. There is no way he will ever succeed. Polls for independance are close to 50% and increasing, and Charest gvt is still going down in polls. Thanks again Parnel, love comments like yours bring the "conditions gagnantes" for separation even closer... |
Originally Posted by Guava
After reading through all this, I am lost. Qu'est-ce que tu radotes? I don't think spending the money that you haven't earned yet is such a good idea, Charest Government may be encountering resistance because of its aggressive economic reform, but don't you think it's kind of early to talk about 2007? They got 3 years to get used to it and frankly, if applied correctly, though the path of change may be painful, it will paid off well for the Quebec economy in the long-run. Just look at how the price of real-estate has gone by so much in the last 1 and half year in Montreal, it's red hot now and it could continue. This would not be possible under PQ. And last time I checked, no one has to died outside of a hospital door due to insufficient capacity like under dirty Laundry either?
The real estate boom in Montreal started before Charest came in. Lets hope he does something good eventually. |
Originally Posted by exAC
Memo to King Ralph:
Ref: The firewall. Make it higher and stronger. The CPC would have been better off with Belinda, she would have been harder to paint as an extremist, she didn't have extremist religious baggage, and Martin could hardly go after her for her wealth. |
Originally Posted by YUL
And for the next provincial election, Charest has no capacity to govern and is failling every day. There is no way he will ever succeed. Polls for independance are close to 50% and increasing, and Charest gvt is still going down in polls. |
Originally Posted by LeSabre74
The CPC would have been better off with Belinda, she would have been harder to paint as an extremist, she didn't have extremist religious baggage, and Martin could hardly go after her for her wealth.
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Originally Posted by LeSabre74
The results from BC show we can think for ourselves and don't vote some monolithic, futile, protest vote. Troubling for the Conservatives in BC, the results show the NDP beginning to reoccupy its traditional place as the working man's protest party, and the urban ridings slowly turning away from the Harper's Conservatives.
. Yes, as the Vancouver suburbs grow into the Fraser Valley, the extreme rightwing's share of the vote is shrinking. I note that many of the Delta/Surrey/Coquitlam ridings, traditionally very blue, were won with a minority of votes (like most other urban ridings). Could almost say the same for the prairies except Alberta (the only place where the Cs got a majority of the votes: 60%+) Here's the vote breakdown on a provincial basis % Votes No. Seats PC L NDP PC L NDP BC 36.3 28.6 26.5 22 8 5 AB 61.6 22.0 9.5 26 2 0 SK 41.8 27.2 23.4 13 1 0 MB 39.1 33.2 23.5 7 3 4 Except for Alberta, the combined Liberal and NDP vote is 9-19% higher than the PC share. Not sure how this compares to previous elections in the last 25 years. If there was a single transferrable voting system like in Australia, I wonder if the west except for Alberta would be more red and orange. |
Not a big fan of Ralph but....
I do like the fact that we will soon be DEBT and DEFICIT free. Yes there are resource revenues but these too could have been spent and we could still be in debt so on this front he hasn't done too badly. Hopefully once the debt is gone we can invest some $$ in infrastructure as it is definitely needed.
http://www.gov.ab.ca/home/index.cfm?page=843 Oh and PS please don't lump in Edmonton with the rest of Alberta so far as being totally dominated by Conservative blue ;) . We actually elected two Liberals and there were some fairly large numbers for the NDP too, where in some ridings the combined NDP/Liberal vote was higher than the Conservative numbers. |
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