IRROPs - Cancellation / Delay / Diversion etc. WITHIN 48 HOURS of departure (2023)
Nov 4, 2023, 5:02 pm
#811
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Thanks Adam, yes this will definitely be a flight where I buy wifi and will keep an eye on things.
To your point about emailing both central and NRT, where do you find emails for individual outstations? Or is this something where I’m best to stop by the concierge office in YYZ to discuss the situation then and it’s something they could provide?
To your point about emailing both central and NRT, where do you find emails for individual outstations? Or is this something where I’m best to stop by the concierge office in YYZ to discuss the situation then and it’s something they could provide?
Nov 4, 2023, 5:23 pm
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This is probably a good itinerary to stop by the concierge office in YYZ though.
Nov 4, 2023, 7:37 pm
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Sitting in the YVR dom lounge looking out at a dry, calm evening. Just got this message for AC 126:
The incoming flight from CUN is still on its way, and there is NO bad weather here.
And to think. I could have been having Scotch and Burgers right now!
Edit... And now AC 124 is scheduled to depart 1 hour early. Is that a thing? With at least 3 (in J) not checked in yet?
This flight is delayed due to bad weather at the departure airport. An example of bad weather could include thunderstorms, snow, fog, low clouds, or wind gusts.
And to think. I could have been having Scotch and Burgers right now!
Edit... And now AC 124 is scheduled to depart 1 hour early. Is that a thing? With at least 3 (in J) not checked in yet?
Last edited by painintheuk; Nov 4, 2023 at 8:50 pm
Nov 4, 2023, 10:31 pm
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Despite the reason from AC, any chance that flight is waiting for a f/a from AC229 landing at midnight?
YVR website shows 60 minutes early.
AC website shows 30 minutes early.
Edit, something bigger seems to be going on.
SYD, DXB & BNE are all delayed to1:00.
AC229 is the only flight arriving with any significant delay.
Last edited by tracon; Nov 4, 2023 at 10:44 pm
Nov 4, 2023, 10:49 pm
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Sitting in the YVR dom lounge looking out at a dry, calm evening. Just got this message for AC 126:
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The incoming flight from CUN is still on its way, and there is NO bad weather here.
And to think. I could have been having Scotch and Burgers right now!
Edit... And now AC 124 is scheduled to depart 1 hour early. Is that a thing? With at least 3 (in J) not checked in yet?
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The incoming flight from CUN is still on its way, and there is NO bad weather here.
And to think. I could have been having Scotch and Burgers right now!
Edit... And now AC 124 is scheduled to depart 1 hour early. Is that a thing? With at least 3 (in J) not checked in yet?
At least there was some windowside (rampside?) entertainment - a baggage container tipped over. A good number of ramp agents crowded around and took pictures before they tipped it back over using a forklift and tow truck.
Nov 4, 2023, 10:53 pm
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They just announced in the lounge that the delay (at least to 126) is due to volcanic ash from Russian volcano. All non-AC flights still showing as on time or slightly delayed. WJ has a lot of cancellations, but not sure if that is related since they do have a couple of flights going.
SEA departures still all seem to be on time.
SEA departures still all seem to be on time.
Nov 4, 2023, 11:53 pm
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They just announced in the lounge that the delay (at least to 126) is due to volcanic ash from Russian volcano. All non-AC flights still showing as on time or slightly delayed. WJ has a lot of cancellations, but not sure if that is related since they do have a couple of flights going.
SEA departures still all seem to be on time.
SEA departures still all seem to be on time.
Nov 5, 2023, 12:02 am
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Update:
Lynx, Flair and WestJet all managed to depart for YYZ. Porter is boarding. They should be up here offering people seats if they have any to spare!!
AC?
I definitely feel for the staff in the lounge who have been great. Seems that they are staying until/if we depart. Hopefully they get good overtime!
Last edited by painintheuk; Nov 5, 2023 at 12:28 am
Nov 5, 2023, 1:36 am
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I have connected through NRT over 20x and been delayed on numerous occasions. Every time there was a delay I was amazed at how proactive the local ground staff were in meeting the plane (lots of them), and having made onward connections mapped out, re-booked and posted in large handwritten, but perfect, script on large pieces of paper at the top of the jet-bridge with agents there to guide you...very Japanese efficient!
Nov 5, 2023, 5:47 am
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Wrong departure time due to time change
This does not seem to be correct that the flight from YYC to YYZ took 2h 17m. We know the jet stream but it could not have been that powerful.
FlightAware shows AC156 left YYC at 2:09am MST and arrived at YYZ at 7:26am EST which probably is the correct situation.
Seems someone just lost their ticket and got a no show by showing up at the gate at 2:30am. I do believe they may have a case of grievance.
Nov 5, 2023, 9:32 am
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At the moment, there are two volcanic ash clouds.
One is in a line roughly Hope to Whistler.
The other is east of the Okanagan.
Both surface to 26,000' and moving eastward.
Go to FR24 to see flights into YVR diverting around it and flying over Bellingham into YVR
This does not seem to be correct that the flight from YYC to YYZ took 2h 17m. We know the jet stream but it could not have been that powerful.
FlightAware shows AC156 left YYC at 2:09am MST and arrived at YYZ at 7:26am EST which probably is the correct situation.
Seems someone just lost their ticket and got a no show by showing up at the gate at 2:30am. I do believe they may have a case of grievance.
1:05-5:35 is the published correct time with respect to the time change.
If the flight was to be airborne at 1:30, level off at 2:00.....at which point the time magically becomes 1:00,
2.5 hours of flying remaining + 2 hours of time changes, the flight lands at 5:30.
In the spring, the same flight would publish at 1:05-7:35.
One is in a line roughly Hope to Whistler.
The other is east of the Okanagan.
Both surface to 26,000' and moving eastward.
Go to FR24 to see flights into YVR diverting around it and flying over Bellingham into YVR
This does not seem to be correct that the flight from YYC to YYZ took 2h 17m. We know the jet stream but it could not have been that powerful.
FlightAware shows AC156 left YYC at 2:09am MST and arrived at YYZ at 7:26am EST which probably is the correct situation.
Seems someone just lost their ticket and got a no show by showing up at the gate at 2:30am. I do believe they may have a case of grievance.
If the flight was to be airborne at 1:30, level off at 2:00.....at which point the time magically becomes 1:00,
2.5 hours of flying remaining + 2 hours of time changes, the flight lands at 5:30.
In the spring, the same flight would publish at 1:05-7:35.
Nov 5, 2023, 9:42 am
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Is 01:05 departure MST or MDT? 
Nov 5, 2023, 10:31 am
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At the moment, there are two volcanic ash clouds.
One is in a line roughly Hope to Whistler.
The other is east of the Okanagan.
Both surface to 26,000' and moving eastward.
Go to FR24 to see flights into YVR diverting around it and flying over Bellingham into YVR
1:05-5:35 is the published correct time with respect to the time change.
If the flight was to be airborne at 1:30, level off at 2:00.....at which point the time magically becomes 1:00,
2.5 hours of flying remaining + 2 hours of time changes, the flight lands at 5:30.
In the spring, the same flight would publish at 1:05-7:35.
One is in a line roughly Hope to Whistler.
The other is east of the Okanagan.
Both surface to 26,000' and moving eastward.
Go to FR24 to see flights into YVR diverting around it and flying over Bellingham into YVR
1:05-5:35 is the published correct time with respect to the time change.
If the flight was to be airborne at 1:30, level off at 2:00.....at which point the time magically becomes 1:00,
2.5 hours of flying remaining + 2 hours of time changes, the flight lands at 5:30.
In the spring, the same flight would publish at 1:05-7:35.
Nov 5, 2023, 11:42 am
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The departure time being returned from AC is showing as UTC-6 (it shows estimated departure as 03:09 local time / 09:09 GMT), which is MDT. So it looks like it's not adjusting the time zone conversion in the status endpoint if there's a delay across a time change.
Nov 5, 2023, 12:31 pm
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The time change did not happen during AC IT's standard operating hours of 9 am to 5 pm Monday to Friday...oh and there's a hard 12 - 1 pm lunch break there, so adjust your expectations accordingly.