Russia flight ban impact on AC

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Feb 27, 2022, 12:48 pm

m.y

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Russia flight ban impact on AC

After Canada imposed overflight bans for Russian planes, it is expected Russia will reciprocate (if not already happened). Looks like AC has already adjusted its operations to Asia.

DEL-YYZ adding stop in DUB
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA43

YYZ-ICN detouring around Russia, taking one hour longer
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA27

YVR-DEL canceled
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA44

Today's YYZ-DEL is still running as expected, I wonder what route it will take to avoid Russia.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...230Z/CYYZ/VIDP

Feb 27, 2022, 12:57 pm

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Originally Posted by m.y

Was just reading some discussion on this on airliners.net.

Discussion of what, if anything, the now 16hr door overall flight will change for catering. Someone posted they are limited on galley space.

But hey , post-covid duty free isn't back yet right? More storage space for kit kats.

Feb 27, 2022, 1:40 pm

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Even if we aren’t (yet) banned, seems this would be a good time to be staying out of Russian airspace.

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Feb 27, 2022, 5:06 pm

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Currently in the air..

Quite the delay for AC 49 and diverting to YUL on the return.

"DELAY ATFM DUE TO ATC EN-ROUTE DEMAND/CAPACITY"

Also, AC is also sending 3 flights to DEL. Rescue or...?

AC 2050 YUL-DEL
AC 2042 YYZ-DEL
AC 2044 YYZ-DEL

Screen shots for the visuals.

Feb 27, 2022, 8:36 pm

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Depending on winds, YVR-ICN often routes over Russia.

Feb 27, 2022, 9:40 pm

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Currently in the air..
.....
Also, AC is also sending 3 flights to DEL. Rescue or...?

AC 2050 YUL-DEL
AC 2042 YYZ-DEL
AC 2044 YYZ-DEL
....

AC 42 YYZ-DEL and AC 50 YUL-DEL are also on their way, thus 5 AC flights on their way to DEL. A notation for the record books perhaps.
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Feb 27, 2022, 11:17 pm

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Thanks for sharing What app do you use for the second image data?

AC50 took off nearly on time Feb 27, and arriving Feb 28. Return flight AC51 significantly delayed to March 1 - mid day India time, any ideas why?
AC50 YUL-DEL
AC51 DEL-YUL

Feb 27, 2022, 11:33 pm

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What app do you use for the second image data?

ExpertFlyer.

Feb 28, 2022, 4:12 am

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YVR - DEL was rerouted via YYZ and the flight number changed to AC 2044. We were notified of this change about 4 hours prior to departure and the concierge in YVR called me to also ensure that I was aware of the change. We left at 1:15am with a 2 hour technical stop in TO (we were not allowed to disembark) and arrived in Delhi at 1:05pm on Monday.

Feb 28, 2022, 4:13 am

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AC2044 was originally AC44 from YVR and this was our rerouted flight.

Feb 28, 2022, 4:33 am

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I wonder why the flights arriving tonight are delayed to depart till tomorrow mid-day (India time).

Feb 28, 2022, 8:43 am

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Originally Posted by expert7700

The galleys are already stuffed to the gills. Unlikely they will take on extra catering at DUB. Very quick in/out tech stop for fuel, crew change and a light groom most likely.

Mar 4, 2022, 1:47 pm

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Just arrived to Toronto on AC57 from Dubai. The flight was delayed 60 minutes as they had to reload the new flight path to avoid Ukraine airspace. FA announced to everyone that we will not be flying over Ukraine that was initially shown on screen.

attached is the updated flight. Added another 1hour+ to the flight time.

New flight path AC57 DXB-YYZ

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Mar 5, 2022, 6:06 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ACfly

New flight path AC57 DXB-YYZ

I'm not 100% convinced that was the truth.
I find it hard to believe 10 days after airlines stopped flying over Ukraine that AC would have to "reload" a flight plan to avoid said airspace.
It is possible if the dispatcher screwed up the initial flight plan so who knows.

The route you took is similar to one that I took several years ago.
Leave DXB head over CAI. My flight flew west of Ukraine over Bergen, Iceland..........

Mar 7, 2022, 2:13 pm

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I see DUB is being used as a tech stop for AC43 & AC44.
I wonder is this route will become financially unsustainable and hit the chopping block for a while?

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