AC Food & Beverage - Business Class - International (Jul 2021 - ???)
#46
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#47
Join Date: Jan 2015
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MAIN COURSE
Mapo tofu with pork, quinoa, brown and wild rice blend, gai lan
Roasted cod, fennel and leek tomato sauce, white beans, broccolini
Mapo tofu with pork, quinoa, brown and wild rice blend, gai lan
Roasted cod, fennel and leek tomato sauce, white beans, broccolini
I was going to order the roasted cod, but only the mapo tofu was available when my order was taken. I'm not sure if meal selections were done by status or not. I didn't like the mapo tofu dish. It was quite dry and had some crunchy bits that I couldn't identify. Reminded me of sand in food. I slowly ate the whole thing anyways, as I'd missed breakfast and was quite hungry. Would not recommend.
#48
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: YYZ
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I'm not sure about mapo tofu served on other airlines, but that seems extremely dry and the gailan looks like the life (and any nutritional value) was boiled out of it (rather than a simple blanch). But considering how AC treats their food, I'm not surprised. I keep seeing all these photos where it looks like the FA either shoved the plate into a microwave (and it had explody bits) or they let it sit under a broiler and let it dry out (or deconstruct itself).
#49
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MEX
Programs: AC E75K
Posts: 4,171
MAIN COURSE
Mapo tofu with pork, quinoa, brown and wild rice blend, gai lan
Roasted cod, fennel and leek tomato sauce, white beans, broccolini
Mapo tofu with pork, quinoa, brown and wild rice blend, gai lan
Roasted cod, fennel and leek tomato sauce, white beans, broccolini
I was going to order the roasted cod, but only the mapo tofu was available when my order was taken. I'm not sure if meal selections were done by status or not. I didn't like the mapo tofu dish. It was quite dry and had some crunchy bits that I couldn't identify. Reminded me of sand in food. I slowly ate the whole thing anyways, as I'd missed breakfast and was quite hungry. Would not recommend.
I'm not sure about mapo tofu served on other airlines, but that seems extremely dry and the gailan looks like the life (and any nutritional value) was boiled out of it (rather than a simple blanch). But considering how AC treats their food, I'm not surprised. I keep seeing all these photos where it looks like the FA either shoved the plate into a microwave (and it had explody bits) or they let it sit under a broiler and let it dry out (or deconstruct itself).
#50
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,918
Personally, I think it's a bad dish to use on an airplane... The sauce is a starch-based sauce so left alone for a little time and it will break down into a thinner liquid. Sure, you could probably reconstitute it somehow, but not sure if I'd want to eat it at that point.
#51
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YYC- FRA mid-August
I flew YYC-FRA last weekend in J and my experience was rather mixed, albeit much better than a few months ago.
On the bright side: Bedding and headphones are back, and drink service is almost as good as pre-covid (except for no PDB).
However, I was far from impressed by the catering:
dinner:
- tuna appetizer was tasty
- bread was rather chewy and tasteless, rather nasty
- choice of only two main courses (beef and vegetarian falafel)
- beef was more like a dry hockey puck, served with some mashed potatoes and what may've been an asparagus in a previous life
- dessert essentially was a cheap jam tart, unexciting (not terrible, but hardly "signature chef" quality as advertised)
- there also were a few pieces of fruit and some pre-plated chesse bits
breakfast:
- no choice, no hot item
- styrofoam "croissant" was distinctly unexciting
- breakfast consisted of some granola with nuts and coconut something with some kind of fruit
- since I'm allergic to nuts, I simply had 6+ shots of espresso, which may've contributed to my having a productive day upon arrival
On the bright side: Service was truly excellent! But how hard can it be to provide some decent catering?!? (I.e. pre-covid meal standards without the trolley service etc.
On the bright side: Bedding and headphones are back, and drink service is almost as good as pre-covid (except for no PDB).
However, I was far from impressed by the catering:
dinner:
- tuna appetizer was tasty
- bread was rather chewy and tasteless, rather nasty
- choice of only two main courses (beef and vegetarian falafel)
- beef was more like a dry hockey puck, served with some mashed potatoes and what may've been an asparagus in a previous life
- dessert essentially was a cheap jam tart, unexciting (not terrible, but hardly "signature chef" quality as advertised)
- there also were a few pieces of fruit and some pre-plated chesse bits
breakfast:
- no choice, no hot item
- styrofoam "croissant" was distinctly unexciting
- breakfast consisted of some granola with nuts and coconut something with some kind of fruit
- since I'm allergic to nuts, I simply had 6+ shots of espresso, which may've contributed to my having a productive day upon arrival
On the bright side: Service was truly excellent! But how hard can it be to provide some decent catering?!? (I.e. pre-covid meal standards without the trolley service etc.
#52
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Vancouver
Programs: AC SE100K 1MM, FB Platinum, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold Elite, Hilton Gold
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I flew YYC-FRA last weekend in J and my experience was rather mixed, albeit much better than a few months ago.
On the bright side: Bedding and headphones are back, and drink service is almost as good as pre-covid (except for no PDB).
However, I was far from impressed by the catering:
dinner:
- tuna appetizer was tasty
- bread was rather chewy and tasteless, rather nasty
- choice of only two main courses (beef and vegetarian falafel)
- beef was more like a dry hockey puck, served with some mashed potatoes and what may've been an asparagus in a previous life
- dessert essentially was a cheap jam tart, unexciting (not terrible, but hardly "signature chef" quality as advertised)
- there also were a few pieces of fruit and some pre-plated chesse bits
breakfast:
- no choice, no hot item
- styrofoam "croissant" was distinctly unexciting
- breakfast consisted of some granola with nuts and coconut something with some kind of fruit
- since I'm allergic to nuts, I simply had 6+ shots of espresso, which may've contributed to my having a productive day upon arrival
On the bright side: Service was truly excellent! But how hard can it be to provide some decent catering?!? (I.e. pre-covid meal standards without the trolley service etc.
On the bright side: Bedding and headphones are back, and drink service is almost as good as pre-covid (except for no PDB).
However, I was far from impressed by the catering:
dinner:
- tuna appetizer was tasty
- bread was rather chewy and tasteless, rather nasty
- choice of only two main courses (beef and vegetarian falafel)
- beef was more like a dry hockey puck, served with some mashed potatoes and what may've been an asparagus in a previous life
- dessert essentially was a cheap jam tart, unexciting (not terrible, but hardly "signature chef" quality as advertised)
- there also were a few pieces of fruit and some pre-plated chesse bits
breakfast:
- no choice, no hot item
- styrofoam "croissant" was distinctly unexciting
- breakfast consisted of some granola with nuts and coconut something with some kind of fruit
- since I'm allergic to nuts, I simply had 6+ shots of espresso, which may've contributed to my having a productive day upon arrival
On the bright side: Service was truly excellent! But how hard can it be to provide some decent catering?!? (I.e. pre-covid meal standards without the trolley service etc.
1. Most soft product is back.
2. Crews have generally been good (they seem to be mostly happy to be flying).
3. Catering is terrible across the board.
#53
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Agreed. I don't necessarily mind some covid precautions (like avoiding plating meals onboard, although the risk arguably is tiny), but how hard would it be to offer some decent catering?!?
3-4 main course options that reheat well, e.g.
- Irish stew
- veal ragout with rice and grilled Mediterranean vegetables
- black cod in a light white wine sauce
- some vegetarian dish such as tortellini in a mushroom cream-tomato sauce, or risotto, or whatever...
...along with a semi-decent dessert such as cake, creme brulee, trifle, tiramisu, pavlova bits with fresh berries etc.
Like, this REALLY shouldn't be that hard. While some people may disagree with me, I thought AC's catering pre-covid was actually pretty good...it really shouldn't be that hard to re-introduce most of it.
#54
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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I'm with you. I enjoyed the pre-COVID catering. My recent flight reminds me of the sad state of AC catering from like 10 years ago.
#55
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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You're starting to make me wonder if the sauce was packed separately, and they just forgot to add it? The dish I was served was dry and crunchy. Really didn't resemble any mapo tofu that I know!
#56
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,918
If made based on as little touch as possible, it wouldn't be. But the white rice component might have absorbed it if there was any. The wild rice would not. The meat in the photo had the look of being exposed to air for quite some time. And that gailan looked like it had been overboiled...
#57
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 614
There is no reason why the quality has to be so poor. I can understand maybe some service changes for less passenger contact but not serving Y quality meals in J. I've flown a few other airlines during COVID and they had the same quality catering as before, just a different service concept (one wasn't doing dine on demand, one did single tray service).
If AC wants to retain the improved business class image they've been building up over the last few years they should reconsider this cheap cost cutting.
If AC wants to retain the improved business class image they've been building up over the last few years they should reconsider this cheap cost cutting.
#58
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Vancouver
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Posts: 1,604
There is no reason why the quality has to be so poor. I can understand maybe some service changes for less passenger contact but not serving Y quality meals in J. I've flown a few other airlines during COVID and they had the same quality catering as before, just a different service concept (one wasn't doing dine on demand, one did single tray service).
If AC wants to retain the improved business class image they've been building up over the last few years they should reconsider this cheap cost cutting.
If AC wants to retain the improved business class image they've been building up over the last few years they should reconsider this cheap cost cutting.
#59
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,918
It would be interesting to know if they follow any of these blogs and notice these comments. Do the mods (or anyone else) know if they do? Also wondering if it is worthwhile writing in to let them know how disappointing the catering has been (not that that generally helps). I was going to give them another shot in a few weeks when I am heading back to Europe.
#60
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MEX
Programs: AC E75K
Posts: 4,171
It would be interesting to know if they follow any of these blogs and notice these comments. Do the mods (or anyone else) know if they do? Also wondering if it is worthwhile writing in to let them know how disappointing the catering has been (not that that generally helps). I was going to give them another shot in a few weeks when I am heading back to Europe.