For quick advice please re international flight tomorrow
Mar 20, 2020, 6:58 pm
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There is always a cursory document check, which verifies that one can do the shortcut. Not everyone can take the shortcut, and if there are problems, everyone (including Canadians) would need to clear customs to leave the area.
It's not clear if a USian can enter Canada from Europe. I would not bet on her ability to board an Air Canada aircraft.
It's not clear if a USian can enter Canada from Europe. I would not bet on her ability to board an Air Canada aircraft.
That said, the rules are changing on a daily basis. If she can do it today or in two days is an open question....
Mar 20, 2020, 7:34 pm
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there are some airports in Canada where you can connect from international to USA without going through Canadian customs. You head straight to US preclearance.
IIRC YVR does this. Instead of heading down escalator to CAN immigration you take a different escalator down to USA preclearance.
IIRC YVR does this. Instead of heading down escalator to CAN immigration you take a different escalator down to USA preclearance.
Mar 20, 2020, 9:47 pm
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If OP’s friend connects to DL at YYC AFAIK there is no sterile Intl-us transit, but I could be wrong.
If OP’s friend keeps original AC Itinerary and goes YYC-YVR-SEA then it is also irrelevant due to Intl-DOM connection.
Mar 20, 2020, 9:55 pm
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AGP to FRA is still scheduled; LH has cut up to 90 percent but seems that the flight is still scheduled, or at least one of the flghts several times a week. I've been on several LH flights in the last 10 days and all were actually packed (or even oversold with the middle seat in short haul business occupied) as travellers try and get back to their home countries. Sadly this should die down shortly as the windows close.
Still, I think the OP should provide his daughter with all the material she could need clearly showing that Canada should still allow her to fly. From what people above confirmed it does appear transiting in Canada should not be a problem.
I was last at YYC last Sunday. It was calm but not empty. I imagine even calmer today. This said, we don't yet have too many cases here, nothing like Spain or the US, so probably low risk.
Mar 20, 2020, 10:57 pm
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Per the Canadian government website she can transit through Canada ..... (I would bring the link or a printout as well as the onward reservation should an airline employee challenge it or ask for proof of onward reservations):
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...ponse.html#acb
Mar 21, 2020, 6:03 am
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Ive done a Europe-YUL-US flight. In my case there was someone waiting for us when we deplaned at YUL and escorted us to the US immigration area. Before we could enter the area there was a quick check. Didn’t have to go through Canadian immigration.
Mar 21, 2020, 7:37 am
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So what's happened. It's now well into the day in Europe. Were they able to get to FRA? Did AC let the American onto its flight to YYC? How were checked bags treated? Which flight ex-Canada is she now trying to take?
Mar 21, 2020, 10:27 am
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Also official statement from PMO
https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releas...-united-states
"American travellers arriving in Canada in transit to a third country, diplomats, and travellers with family care, educational or compassionate reasons will continue to be allowed to cross."
https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releas...-united-states
"American travellers arriving in Canada in transit to a third country, diplomats, and travellers with family care, educational or compassionate reasons will continue to be allowed to cross."
Mar 21, 2020, 1:04 pm
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Also official statement from PMO
https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releas...-united-states
"American travellers arriving in Canada in transit to a third country, diplomats, and travellers with family care, educational or compassionate reasons will continue to be allowed to cross."
https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releas...-united-states
"American travellers arriving in Canada in transit to a third country, diplomats, and travellers with family care, educational or compassionate reasons will continue to be allowed to cross."
Mar 21, 2020, 1:54 pm
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Mar 21, 2020, 1:59 pm
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I'm not 100%. I've never done intl to US there. But there's definitely a point you get to on a domestic to US connection where you haven't gone through security or pre-clearance but you're past the point of no return because you've intermingled with international arrivals. Or at least that's what the worker told me when I said "this line is too long, can I just exit and go the other way?"
Mar 21, 2020, 2:00 pm
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I think your in transit if you can show onward travel within some period of time. It does not say the onward travel even has to be by air.
Mar 21, 2020, 2:02 pm
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Mar 21, 2020, 2:12 pm
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I'm not 100%. I've never done intl to US there. But there's definitely a point you get to on a domestic to US connection where you haven't gone through security or pre-clearance but you're past the point of no return because you've intermingled with international arrivals. Or at least that's what the worker told me when I said "this line is too long, can I just exit and go the other way?"
YVR there is a single check point from domestic to international gates. Once your in the international gate area you follow the signs to a queue where you line up for US immigration. YYC is similar though weird.
YYZ T1 is weird in that from domestic you end up in those weird overhead walkways. The domestic to US and international to US passengers merge together.
YYZ T3 is terrible, you need to go land side for any of these border connections.