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Old Aug 31, 2019, 6:01 pm
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Are most people getting status with AQM or AQS?

Looking at the dashboard, are most people getting their status with AQM or AQS or pretty much equal proportions?

I wonder if it's generally easier with one or the other or they made the threshold about equivalent.

Hope it has not been asked lately!
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Old Aug 31, 2019, 6:25 pm
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Depends on your flight patterns. If you're commuting domestically and/or to the US you're going to make it on segments most likely. If you've got a handful of J flights from Canada to Asia then you're making it on miles by a long shot, same thing to Europe but you need more flights (obviously).

Personally, I think every year but one I've had my status earned on miles. This year I re-qualified for 2020 SE on miles a couple of months ago, and I'm going to qualify on segments as well by the end of the year (I am already on 83) ... yay me

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Old Aug 31, 2019, 6:28 pm
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AQS for me. YYZ-ORD is my usual route so AQM is hard to come by
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Old Aug 31, 2019, 6:56 pm
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2016: 89,635, 96
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Both-ish?

This year the miles will finish off just squeaking out over 100k, but possibly in the ~135 range for AQS, assuming I continue my commute to ORD.

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Old Aug 31, 2019, 7:11 pm
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Speaking as an AQM based qualifier .... ugh, AQS qualification seems like a terrible way to (have to) do it.
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Old Aug 31, 2019, 8:52 pm
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I mostly (used to, not on AC anymore) fly long haul J so AQM for me. I don’t think I ever had over 20 AQS.
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Old Aug 31, 2019, 9:45 pm
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My bookings are always Economy Standard. It's hard to build much in the way of AQM that way, so it's all about segments for me. The fact that I'm always flying from an outlying connector airport (YAM) "helps" after a fashion too -- most of my round trips are 6 AQS or more.

As to which one is easier -- it depends a lot on what your bookings are and how much you can tweak them. Qualifying on segments is regarded as the more punishing of the two. If your bookings average more than 1,000 AQM per segment -- or if you have some way to make it so that they do -- you should focus on qualifying via AQM. Otherwise you're left with qualifying on AQS.

I kicked off a related discussion on this last year:

Altitude Status Qualification Strategy: Miles vs Segments?
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Old Aug 31, 2019, 10:10 pm
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Every year I’ve qualified for status it has been with AQS. My usual commute is from Toronto or London ON. to YHZ, and I have a stop at YUL or YOW along the way. The occasional trip out to YVR mixed in as well. Without the extra stops I would most likely qualify for P25K, however with I’m going to have E50K for 2020. Currently at 43 AQS but only 21,000 AQM. As a pilot and aviation enthusiast I have no issue spending more time on planes especially if it gets me higher status. Most of my flights are in Standard so AQM is out of the question. This will probably be my last year playing the status game, as I’ll be applying to flying jobs next year.
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Old Aug 31, 2019, 10:51 pm
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Originally Posted by canopus27
Speaking as an AQM based qualifier .... ugh, AQS qualification seems like a terrible way to (have to) do it.
I agree with this. I'm at 140ish AQM and 50ish AQS. Doubling my AQS would crush me.
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Old Aug 31, 2019, 10:52 pm
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In my 20 years as SE, it has always been AQM (or miles before that). Even with one of my unlimited passes, I doubt I get enough segments to come even close (besides unlimited pass segments don't count in the Altitude world or any other world for that matter).
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Old Sep 1, 2019, 2:26 am
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Definitely AQM since all my travel is from Canada to out of N. America.
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Old Sep 1, 2019, 4:34 am
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For me, in 2002 it was Elite by segments.
Ever since then it has been qualifying miles/AQM, with the exception of last year.

(and some of us now obtain status by doing 0 AQM, 0 AQS, and 0 AQD )
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Old Sep 1, 2019, 5:58 am
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With more and more direct flights to everywhere I guess unless you commute the majority of people qualify by AQM.

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Old Sep 1, 2019, 6:16 am
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I have qualified for Elite 50K every year on AQM except last year, when I had something like 36 segments between YOW and YYZ, almost all at 64 AQM each. So for once it was AQS. But for the current year i have already requalified on AQM, and should hit 75K for the first time.
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Old Sep 1, 2019, 7:55 am
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My 19 years of SE were all on over 100K miles, usually with maximum 30-odd segments.
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