February On-Time Performance - still the worst in the world
Mar 12, 2019, 1:37 pm
#121
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This doesn't shock me one bit. I also suspect AC likes to make up "weather" as an excuse for certain cancellations. Had my YHZ-BOS flight canceled yesterday due to "weather in Boston" but I took a look at the arrivals status for flights into BOS and the majority were arriving.
We arrived early.
Mar 12, 2019, 3:04 pm
#122
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I literally didn't see a single other flight showing as cancelled into BOS other than mine around that time. I was thinking maybe it's because the Q400 is a prop plane that can handle less bad weather. Not sure?
Mar 12, 2019, 6:29 pm
#124
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Doubt it, everytime I fly into BOS or out of BOS I'm delayed. Not sure what the heck is going on with operations at that penalty box.
Mar 18, 2019, 7:59 am
#125
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I have no idea where to post this as there is more than one AC OTP thread....and the MAX grounding causing other fight delays' thread ....and the fires at YYZ causing.....thread......
But I still have a question:
AC's website Flight status page shows that today's AC 63 will be delayed at least 1.5 hours.
Looking at the estimated arrival time of 63 and the scheduled departure time of 64, we ALL KNOW that this aircraft will not turn in 25 minutes.
Since AC has not changed the departure time for AC 64, are they assuming 63 will pick up the time in-flight?
Does AC assume this with all flights that are delayed, because I know from just the last 2 years of TPACS (and some transcons) that no way can AC or it's contracted staff get the wide body aircraft deplaned, groomed (sometimes optional) and catered and boarded in anything remotely close to 25 minutes, let alone 45.
But I still have a question:
AC's website Flight status page shows that today's AC 63 will be delayed at least 1.5 hours.
Looking at the estimated arrival time of 63 and the scheduled departure time of 64, we ALL KNOW that this aircraft will not turn in 25 minutes.
Since AC has not changed the departure time for AC 64, are they assuming 63 will pick up the time in-flight?
Does AC assume this with all flights that are delayed, because I know from just the last 2 years of TPACS (and some transcons) that no way can AC or it's contracted staff get the wide body aircraft deplaned, groomed (sometimes optional) and catered and boarded in anything remotely close to 25 minutes, let alone 45.
Last edited by 24left; Mar 18, 2019 at 8:11 am Reason: spelling
Mar 18, 2019, 8:03 am
#126
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I have no idea where to post this as there is more than one AC OTP thread....and the MAX grounding causing other fight delays' thread ....and the first at YYZ causing.....thread......
But I still have a question:
AC's website Flight status page shows that today's AC 63 will be delayed at least 1.5 hours.
Looking at the estimated arrival time of 63 and the scheduled departure time of 64, we ALL KNOW that this aircraft will not turn in 25 minutes.
Since AC has not changed the departure time for AC 64, are they assuming 63 will pick up the time in-flight?
Does AC assume this with all flights that are delayed, because I know from just the last 2 years of TPACS (and some transcons) that no way can AC or it's contracted staff get the wide body aircraft deplaned, groomed (sometimes optional) and catered and boarded in anything remotely close to 25 minutes, let alone 45.
But I still have a question:
AC's website Flight status page shows that today's AC 63 will be delayed at least 1.5 hours.
Looking at the estimated arrival time of 63 and the scheduled departure time of 64, we ALL KNOW that this aircraft will not turn in 25 minutes.
Since AC has not changed the departure time for AC 64, are they assuming 63 will pick up the time in-flight?
Does AC assume this with all flights that are delayed, because I know from just the last 2 years of TPACS (and some transcons) that no way can AC or it's contracted staff get the wide body aircraft deplaned, groomed (sometimes optional) and catered and boarded in anything remotely close to 25 minutes, let alone 45.
Mar 18, 2019, 8:03 am
#127
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I have no idea where to post this as there is more than one AC OTP thread....and the MAX grounding causing other fight delays' thread ....and the first at YYZ causing.....thread......
But I still have a question:
AC's website Flight status page shows that today's AC 63 will be delayed at least 1.5 hours.
Looking at the estimated arrival time of 63 and the scheduled departure time of 64, we ALL KNOW that this aircraft will not turn in 25 minutes.
Since AC has not changed the departure time for AC 64, are they assuming 63 will pick up the time in-flight?
Does AC assume this with all flights that are delayed, because I know from just the last 2 years of TPACS (and some transcons) that no way can AC or it's contracted staff get the wide body aircraft deplaned, groomed (sometimes optional) and catered and boarded in anything remotely close to 25 minutes, let alone 45.
But I still have a question:
AC's website Flight status page shows that today's AC 63 will be delayed at least 1.5 hours.
Looking at the estimated arrival time of 63 and the scheduled departure time of 64, we ALL KNOW that this aircraft will not turn in 25 minutes.
Since AC has not changed the departure time for AC 64, are they assuming 63 will pick up the time in-flight?
Does AC assume this with all flights that are delayed, because I know from just the last 2 years of TPACS (and some transcons) that no way can AC or it's contracted staff get the wide body aircraft deplaned, groomed (sometimes optional) and catered and boarded in anything remotely close to 25 minutes, let alone 45.
Mar 18, 2019, 8:19 am
#128
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I have no idea where to post this as there is more than one AC OTP thread....and the MAX grounding causing other fight delays' thread ....and the fires at YYZ causing.....thread......
But I still have a question:
AC's website Flight status page shows that today's AC 63 will be delayed at least 1.5 hours.
Looking at the estimated arrival time of 63 and the scheduled departure time of 64, we ALL KNOW that this aircraft will not turn in 25 minutes.
Since AC has not changed the departure time for AC 64, are they assuming 63 will pick up the time in-flight?
Does AC assume this with all flights that are delayed, because I know from just the last 2 years of TPACS (and some transcons) that no way can AC or it's contracted staff get the wide body aircraft deplaned, groomed (sometimes optional) and catered and boarded in anything remotely close to 25 minutes, let alone 45.
But I still have a question:
AC's website Flight status page shows that today's AC 63 will be delayed at least 1.5 hours.
Looking at the estimated arrival time of 63 and the scheduled departure time of 64, we ALL KNOW that this aircraft will not turn in 25 minutes.
Since AC has not changed the departure time for AC 64, are they assuming 63 will pick up the time in-flight?
Does AC assume this with all flights that are delayed, because I know from just the last 2 years of TPACS (and some transcons) that no way can AC or it's contracted staff get the wide body aircraft deplaned, groomed (sometimes optional) and catered and boarded in anything remotely close to 25 minutes, let alone 45.
Mar 18, 2019, 10:59 am
#129
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I cannot imagine that the March OTP stats will be any better.
In the past 72 hours, I have had colleagues/family with:
AC 878 YYZ-ZRH delayed over 7 hours and multiple missed connections and awful reprotection assitance by both AC staff and LX
AC 844 YYC-FRA delayed 2 hours with a medical emergency diversion to LHR and missed connection poorly handled
AC 844 YYC-FRA delayed just over an hour with missed connect and somewhat proactive AC Concierge rebooking
AC 1047 PSP-YYC cancelled with MAX grounding, reprotected on LAX-YYC non-stop...even with AC PSP-YVR-YYC available, rebooked after 2 hours off an on hold
AC 989 PVR-YYC delayed over 2 hours, perhaps due to YYZ T1 issues yesterday?
In the past 72 hours, I have had colleagues/family with:
AC 878 YYZ-ZRH delayed over 7 hours and multiple missed connections and awful reprotection assitance by both AC staff and LX
AC 844 YYC-FRA delayed 2 hours with a medical emergency diversion to LHR and missed connection poorly handled
AC 844 YYC-FRA delayed just over an hour with missed connect and somewhat proactive AC Concierge rebooking
AC 1047 PSP-YYC cancelled with MAX grounding, reprotected on LAX-YYC non-stop...even with AC PSP-YVR-YYC available, rebooked after 2 hours off an on hold
AC 989 PVR-YYC delayed over 2 hours, perhaps due to YYZ T1 issues yesterday?
Mar 18, 2019, 4:12 pm
#130
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I have no idea where to post this as there is more than one AC OTP thread....and the MAX grounding causing other fight delays' thread ....and the fires at YYZ causing.....thread......
But I still have a question:
AC's website Flight status page shows that today's AC 63 will be delayed at least 1.5 hours.
Looking at the estimated arrival time of 63 and the scheduled departure time of 64, we ALL KNOW that this aircraft will not turn in 25 minutes.
Since AC has not changed the departure time for AC 64, are they assuming 63 will pick up the time in-flight?
Does AC assume this with all flights that are delayed, because I know from just the last 2 years of TPACS (and some transcons) that no way can AC or it's contracted staff get the wide body aircraft deplaned, groomed (sometimes optional) and catered and boarded in anything remotely close to 25 minutes, let alone 45.
But I still have a question:
AC's website Flight status page shows that today's AC 63 will be delayed at least 1.5 hours.
Looking at the estimated arrival time of 63 and the scheduled departure time of 64, we ALL KNOW that this aircraft will not turn in 25 minutes.
Since AC has not changed the departure time for AC 64, are they assuming 63 will pick up the time in-flight?
Does AC assume this with all flights that are delayed, because I know from just the last 2 years of TPACS (and some transcons) that no way can AC or it's contracted staff get the wide body aircraft deplaned, groomed (sometimes optional) and catered and boarded in anything remotely close to 25 minutes, let alone 45.
Mar 18, 2019, 5:40 pm
#131
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IMO posting delay means two things:
1. Acknowledging the flight will be late.
2. Provide an estimated ETA, which means they can start rebooking passengers.
For 2 it is much easier to predict after inbound wheels up.
1. Acknowledging the flight will be late.
2. Provide an estimated ETA, which means they can start rebooking passengers.
For 2 it is much easier to predict after inbound wheels up.
Mar 18, 2019, 8:45 pm
#132
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Mar 19, 2019, 9:05 am
#135
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Over the years I ecncountered many flights that departed so late it was impossible for them to land at their scheduled destination prior to the scheduled departure time of that aircraft's next segment. Yet in every case the arrival was listed as on time. So of course the next flight was shown as on time even though it was physically impossible.
I understand that practice continues.