How many toilets?
Oct 24, 2018, 1:51 pm
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But referring to the #1 and #2 sides means even less to the general travelling public than port and starboard does, so they're usually only used internally between some employees.
Oct 24, 2018, 3:11 pm
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In North American aviation, left and right are often referred to as the #1 and #2 sides. The #1 side being the side the Captain sits on (left) and #2 being the side the First Officer sits on (right). That helps avoid confusion in certain situations, such as a ground handler giving signals to a crew during pushback (the crew is facing forward, the ground handler is looking towards the tail).
But referring to the #1 and #2 sides means even less to the general travelling public than port and starboard does, so they're usually only used internally between some employees.
But referring to the #1 and #2 sides means even less to the general travelling public than port and starboard does, so they're usually only used internally between some employees.
What makes things more interesting is that in many cases it is possible that a pilot with four strips on each shoulder sits on the right hand side. For example, flight instructor, flight examiner, and captain substituting a first officer. This means that the person on the right can be more senior than the person on the left. Whether they will be the PIC or not is a different question.
Oct 24, 2018, 4:21 pm
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To me 1/2 or 1/2/3/4 left to right looking top down on plane makes sense given how most languages (ones that I can at least partially understand) all go left to right.
Either way, the question remains how many toilets to customers are required by law to operate and how frequent is this? It seems crazy that AC have a 200%+ surplus when they could just knock out half of them and fit another 10 seats in.
Other question, were the sacrosanct J (and PY/J) washrooms open to all pax?
Either way, the question remains how many toilets to customers are required by law to operate and how frequent is this? It seems crazy that AC have a 200%+ surplus when they could just knock out half of them and fit another 10 seats in.
Other question, were the sacrosanct J (and PY/J) washrooms open to all pax?
Oct 24, 2018, 5:15 pm
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Either way, the question remains how many toilets to customers are required by law to operate and how frequent is this? It seems crazy that AC have a 200%+ surplus when they could just knock out half of them and fit another 10 seats in.
Other question, were the sacrosanct J (and PY/J) washrooms open to all pax?
1. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=459195
Basically, there is no rule or regulation.
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_lavatory
The normally accepted ratio is 50 to 1, but this is not a rule. However, it mentions that aircraft missing ashtray is not allowed to carry passengers (2011 Jazz flight from YFC to YYZ)..
Oct 24, 2018, 5:18 pm
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2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_lavatory
The normally accepted ratio is 50 to 1, but this is not a rule. However, it mentions that aircraft missing ashtray is not allowed to carry passengers (2011 Jazz flight from YFC to YYZ)..
The normally accepted ratio is 50 to 1, but this is not a rule. However, it mentions that aircraft missing ashtray is not allowed to carry passengers (2011 Jazz flight from YFC to YYZ)..
Oct 24, 2018, 6:39 pm
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50:1? Hmmm. I could swear at least one of the narrow bodies carrying about 70 people only has one washroom at the back (I was in J) which was especially annoying. I think at least 2 washrooms should be compulsory.
On largest longer flights I guess that could work. I do find AC isn’t too bad at over abuse of the seatbelt sign (though I have had to yeah I know at my own risk a few FAs) at least. And I understand some people are more stable than others. After all those drinks.
On largest longer flights I guess that could work. I do find AC isn’t too bad at over abuse of the seatbelt sign (though I have had to yeah I know at my own risk a few FAs) at least. And I understand some people are more stable than others. After all those drinks.
Oct 25, 2018, 12:56 am
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The J only lav is on the left side of the plane, so it would have been inoperative. The curtain between PY and Y was drawn on the right hand side. I expect that it would have been respected as much as in any other flight (i.e. not very much).
Oct 25, 2018, 11:21 am
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Oct 25, 2018, 12:11 pm
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Interesting for the curtain to have made a come back! Haven’t seen that recently.
Oct 25, 2018, 4:12 pm
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Oct 26, 2018, 9:40 am
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50:1? Hmmm. I could swear at least one of the narrow bodies carrying about 70 people only has one washroom at the back (I was in J) which was especially annoying. I think at least 2 washrooms should be compulsory.
On largest longer flights I guess that could work. I do find AC isn’t too bad at over abuse of the seatbelt sign (though I have had to yeah I know at my own risk a few FAs) at least. And I understand some people are more stable than others. After all those drinks.
On largest longer flights I guess that could work. I do find AC isn’t too bad at over abuse of the seatbelt sign (though I have had to yeah I know at my own risk a few FAs) at least. And I understand some people are more stable than others. After all those drinks.
The Q400 only has one forward lav, and does not meet 50:1.
Anything smaller meets the 50:1 requirement (except some BEH, which are 18:0).