Work trip (conference) to AMS in October; need to figure out how to fly J & expense Y
Jul 25, 2018, 5:59 pm
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Work trip (conference) to AMS in October; need to figure out how to fly J & expense Y
I have a work trip (conference) to AMS in October. I need to figure out how to fly J while expensing Y. I'm a noob when it comes to these things 
Jul 25, 2018, 6:03 pm
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Jul 25, 2018, 6:11 pm
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I second @yyznomad's 
Manipulate your company's OTA or TA to get you into a desirable fare class on something like AC 738 x AC 824 and use eUps?
Book as late as you dare to 'boost' the Economy fare class if needed or you are brave enough. Welcome to the real world of corporate travel.
Manipulate your company's OTA or TA to get you into a desirable fare class on something like AC 738 x AC 824 and use eUps?
Book as late as you dare to 'boost' the Economy fare class if needed or you are brave enough. Welcome to the real world of corporate travel.
Jul 25, 2018, 6:26 pm
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You’d want to set a EF alert in case it’s starting to look tight and up-faring to a Z/D or something is safer. I’m assuming work isn’t going to actually pay full Y/B here. Or NEO?
Jul 25, 2018, 6:40 pm
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Not sure if you are being sarcastic here. As nomad says eUps are the best approach, and at least right now from YYZ AC has been op upping people with lower status than you.
You’d want to set a EF alert in case it’s starting to look tight and up-faring to a Z/D or something is safer. I’m assuming work isn’t going to actually pay full Y/B here. Or NEO?
Jul 25, 2018, 6:49 pm
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Seriously, book the highest fare you can legitimately book with PE preferred. Then call AC and pay the diff to move to a more desirable fare class assuming you are in low flex or Tango. The earlier you do this the more reasonable the step up cost. And then use eupg. This is likely the most cost effective solution.
Or you can take your chances with bid upg or LMU.
Jul 25, 2018, 7:04 pm
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Shocking that company won’t pay for PY on what’s easily 5+(almost)8h and a stop. Though I guess neither leg is the magical 8h unless you can get a longer second leg. But I know some companies will pay Standard on 14h so luck of the draw.
The major issue is branded fares could stick you into Basic. And I don’t see a solution beyond upfaring at least to Flex for that which I believe reissues the ticket. If you have a good boss maybe they’ll be open to allowing you to book it all an expense the cost of whatever BCD/CWT of whatever lists.
I do wonder if a separate SFO AMS Y-J OPM thread is warrantied here though
Assuming you are flying AC whatever.
Jul 25, 2018, 7:09 pm
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Its a tricky one, especially without knowing some more. I assume you want SFO AMS which isn’t direct as far as I’m aware, but a stop somewhere like YYZ is the best route unless you can get a YVR AMS. I would expect you’ll get an LMU but while I know you hate Y theres always the risk you don’t or it’s $5k.
Shocking that company won’t pay for PY on what’s easily 5+(almost)8h and a stop. Though I guess neither leg is the magical 8h unless you can get a longer second leg. But I know some companies will pay Standard on 14h so luck of the draw.
The major issue is branded fares could stick you into Basic. And I don’t see a solution beyond upfaring at least to Flex for that which I believe reissues the ticket. If you have a good boss maybe they’ll be open to allowing you to book it all an expense the cost of whatever BCD/CWT of whatever lists.
I do wonder if a separate SFO AMS Y-J OPM thread is warrantied here though
Assuming you are flying AC whatever.. I'd love to just use miles and expense whatever my team pays Travel policy for conferences (i.e. not a "business need") is economy only. The last time I looked at our regular policy, it was something like Y under 6 hours.
Jul 25, 2018, 8:48 pm
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If you are willing to spend the money (or eUps), and the paper pushers want a receipt (but don't demand it is booked through their system), then do that. Book in Y. Print-to-pdf the receipt. Cancel it. Book in J. Expense Y.
Jul 25, 2018, 9:28 pm
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Do like the federal civil servants do, especially at senior levels or in ministerial offices. "know" about your conference attendance months in advance, but book airfare literally the last minute when only full-Y is available. Pay the difference separately. Act dumb.
Jul 25, 2018, 9:40 pm
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The problem with this and updating of it retickets is if someone audits it and notices the discrepancy. Depends on the company here but in some that’s a fairly serious issue.
cow you mention $3 (k one assumes). I don’t see you getting a $3k return even you mean USD and are clearly open to non *A.
I know BA does a nice SFO LHR which would combine with the delight of infra Europe J for a C$5500 trip but most of my suggestions here about points, google flights and alternate locations and dates are all completely redundant in your case! And yeah BA J isn’t my carrier of choice though it beats Y.
FI is another poor J that might work with probably two stops. But a nice place to stop for a few days
Jul 25, 2018, 9:43 pm
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Also, AC is selling Basic and Standard fares right up to the wire these days on many routes. I don’t see October traffic being amazing high.
Jul 25, 2018, 11:42 pm
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