Can I same day change from LH to AC flight?
Jul 18, 2018, 5:05 am
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As far as I know, airlines can freely push/pull coupon (not ticket) control as lock as the coupon is not checked in.
Also, I believe there's a post somewhere in the 30 threads about SDCs that went over all the conditions under which an SDC must be initiated. I believe it even covers the "I have an AC codeshare" situation.
Jul 18, 2018, 5:27 am
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Please explain if you don't mind.
As far as I know, airlines can freely push/pull coupon (not ticket) control as lock as the coupon is not checked in.
Also, I believe there's a post somewhere in the 30 threads about SDCs that went over all the conditions under which an SDC must be initiated. I believe it even covers the "I have an AC codeshare" situation.
As far as I know, airlines can freely push/pull coupon (not ticket) control as lock as the coupon is not checked in.
Also, I believe there's a post somewhere in the 30 threads about SDCs that went over all the conditions under which an SDC must be initiated. I believe it even covers the "I have an AC codeshare" situation.
My understanding of SDCs is they are done in the DCS. Since this is an LH operated flight, the OPs flight record (or whatever the real term is) would be in LHs DCS, not ACs.
We’ll wait to see how the OP makes out.
Jul 18, 2018, 6:05 am
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I wasn’t expecting my words to be interpreted literally.
My understanding of SDCs is they are done in the DCS. Since this is an LH operated flight, the OPs flight record (or whatever the real term is) would be in LHs DCS, not ACs.
We’ll wait to see how the OP makes out.
Well yeah, this is probably why if you want to SDC a codeshare you have to go to the ticketing counter of the ticketing carrier and not just a regular check in. I don't think the gate/check in agents can loose match a codeshare coupon.
Jul 18, 2018, 10:53 am
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Jul 22, 2018, 12:32 am
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Air Canada - consistently inconsistent
Last night I tried to get the Concierge to put me on the standby list and got this response two and a half hours later:
"I have looked at your reservation and since this is a Lufthansa flight that is operating from Frankfurt to Toronto we can't put you on stand by for the Air Canada flight. There isn't a record that we can work with since these are operated by Lufthansa and doesn't pull up in our system."
"The only way we can make the change is as a voluntary exchange of your ticket which inquires a fare difference and change fee."
I'm now in the FRA MLL and I asked the agent if I could do standby for the earlier AC flight. She said that PE was sold out and the flight was way oversold by 26 people, so I would not be able to standby. I then asked her if the flight hadn't been oversold would she be able to make the change for me and she confirmed that yes she would.
Meanwhile in typical AC fashion my AC status, which appeared on my AC flights failed to carry over to my return LH flights, which I only noticed when I asked the check-in agent in RIX if I could have my boarding pass stamped for priority security and she wondered why. This seems to be a frequent problem with AC and LH's computers not playing nice with each other.
So, I am not getting on the earlier flight (but could have if not oversold) and I don't have a seat yet for my PE flight home on LH because that flight is apparently oversold (LH oversells PE????). So now we play the lottery - do I get a PE seat at the gate, do I get an op-up to J at the gate or do I get tossed off the LH flight and bumped back to AC for the late flight out of FRA. Will report back on this later.
At the end of the day I will leave it up to @canadiancow and @yyznomad whether they will endure the indignity of eating MLL food since under today's circumstances I was not able to switch from LH to AC but the lounge people said they would have done so if not oversold.
"The only way we can make the change is as a voluntary exchange of your ticket which inquires a fare difference and change fee."
I'm now in the FRA MLL and I asked the agent if I could do standby for the earlier AC flight. She said that PE was sold out and the flight was way oversold by 26 people, so I would not be able to standby. I then asked her if the flight hadn't been oversold would she be able to make the change for me and she confirmed that yes she would.
Meanwhile in typical AC fashion my AC status, which appeared on my AC flights failed to carry over to my return LH flights, which I only noticed when I asked the check-in agent in RIX if I could have my boarding pass stamped for priority security and she wondered why. This seems to be a frequent problem with AC and LH's computers not playing nice with each other.
So, I am not getting on the earlier flight (but could have if not oversold) and I don't have a seat yet for my PE flight home on LH because that flight is apparently oversold (LH oversells PE????). So now we play the lottery - do I get a PE seat at the gate, do I get an op-up to J at the gate or do I get tossed off the LH flight and bumped back to AC for the late flight out of FRA. Will report back on this later.
At the end of the day I will leave it up to @canadiancow and @yyznomad whether they will endure the indignity of eating MLL food since under today's circumstances I was not able to switch from LH to AC but the lounge people said they would have done so if not oversold.
Jul 22, 2018, 12:37 am
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Last night I tried to get the Concierge to put me on the standby list and got this response two and a half hours later:
"I have looked at your reservation and since this is a Lufthansa flight that is operating from Frankfurt to Toronto we can't put you on stand by for the Air Canada flight. There isn't a record that we can work with since these are operated by Lufthansa and doesn't pull up in our system."
"The only way we can make the change is as a voluntary exchange of your ticket which inquires a fare difference and change fee."
I'm now in the FRA MLL and I asked the agent if I could do standby for the earlier AC flight. She said that PE was sold out and the flight was way oversold by 26 people, so I would not be able to standby. I then asked her if the flight hadn't been oversold would she be able to make the change for me and she confirmed that yes she would.
Meanwhile in typical AC fashion my AC status, which appeared on my AC flights failed to carry over to my return LH flights, which I only noticed when I asked the check-in agent in RIX if I could have my boarding pass stamped for priority security and she wondered why. This seems to be a frequent problem with AC and LH's computers not playing nice with each other.
So, I am not getting on the earlier flight (but could have if not oversold) and I don't have a seat yet for my PE flight home on LH because that flight is apparently oversold (LH oversells PE????). So now we play the lottery - do I get a PE seat at the gate, do I get an op-up to J at the gate or do I get tossed off the LH flight and bumped back to AC for the late flight out of FRA. Will report back on this later.
At the end of the day I will leave it up to @canadiancow and @yyznomad whether they will endure the indignity of eating MLL food since under today's circumstances I was not able to switch from LH to AC but the lounge people said they would have done so if not oversold.
"The only way we can make the change is as a voluntary exchange of your ticket which inquires a fare difference and change fee."
I'm now in the FRA MLL and I asked the agent if I could do standby for the earlier AC flight. She said that PE was sold out and the flight was way oversold by 26 people, so I would not be able to standby. I then asked her if the flight hadn't been oversold would she be able to make the change for me and she confirmed that yes she would.
Meanwhile in typical AC fashion my AC status, which appeared on my AC flights failed to carry over to my return LH flights, which I only noticed when I asked the check-in agent in RIX if I could have my boarding pass stamped for priority security and she wondered why. This seems to be a frequent problem with AC and LH's computers not playing nice with each other.
So, I am not getting on the earlier flight (but could have if not oversold) and I don't have a seat yet for my PE flight home on LH because that flight is apparently oversold (LH oversells PE????). So now we play the lottery - do I get a PE seat at the gate, do I get an op-up to J at the gate or do I get tossed off the LH flight and bumped back to AC for the late flight out of FRA. Will report back on this later.
At the end of the day I will leave it up to @canadiancow and @yyznomad whether they will endure the indignity of eating MLL food since under today's circumstances I was not able to switch from LH to AC but the lounge people said they would have done so if not oversold.
There's nothing wrong with overselling PY. Or J. As long as you have a higher cabin with empty seats. I suspect you'll be flying in your ticketed cabin, or better.
Jul 22, 2018, 10:48 am
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I think the agent is right. You cannot standby for an AC flight because you're booked on an LH flight. This is correct.
You can do an SDC, but you cannot SDC to an oversold flight. If you want to get on an oversold flight, you need to pay change fee and fare difference.
Did you talk to an agent at the ticketing counter in FRA? Doing a same day change from an AC codeshare flight to an AC flight requires an airport ticketing agent.
Changing a ticket to another flight , doing a same day change, and standing by for another flight are three distinct transactions. So you cannot change to any other flight by doing a same day change and standing by for that flight.
Sorry it didn't work out.
You can do an SDC, but you cannot SDC to an oversold flight. If you want to get on an oversold flight, you need to pay change fee and fare difference.
Did you talk to an agent at the ticketing counter in FRA? Doing a same day change from an AC codeshare flight to an AC flight requires an airport ticketing agent.
Changing a ticket to another flight , doing a same day change, and standing by for another flight are three distinct transactions. So you cannot change to any other flight by doing a same day change and standing by for that flight.
Sorry it didn't work out.
Jul 22, 2018, 1:03 pm
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So, I am not getting on the earlier flight (but could have if not oversold) and I don't have a seat yet for my PE flight home on LH because that flight is apparently oversold (LH oversells PE????). So now we play the lottery - do I get a PE seat at the gate, do I get an op-up to J at the gate or do I get tossed off the LH flight and bumped back to AC for the late flight out of FRA. Will report back on this later.
At the end of the day I will leave it up to @canadiancow and @yyznomad whether they will endure the indignity of eating MLL food since under today's circumstances I was not able to switch from LH to AC but the lounge people said they would have done so if not oversold.
At the end of the day I will leave it up to @canadiancow and @yyznomad whether they will endure the indignity of eating MLL food since under today's circumstances I was not able to switch from LH to AC but the lounge people said they would have done so if not oversold.