Air Canada snubs loyal customer
Feb 14, 2018, 9:20 pm
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The fact she went to CBC over a small issue shows she's making a mountain out of a molehill. Really? Need to go to the CBC because you are afraid of walking by someone?
People could bump her in the Zone 1 / 2 / 58 line and cause the same issues unintentionally.
The flight attendants moved the man away from her. They had police and whatnot speak to the passenger. I would assume they would determine if he was a safety risk before deciding to move him (ie, remove him from flight instead).
She says she "suggested" she could use the front washroom. Did she actually state she was afraid to pass the man? Perhaps if she was more specific they might have been fine with letting her use the washroom. Regardless of whether she's pregnant or not, this would open a can of worms anytime someone gets moved for whatever reason.
Got moved so a family could sit together? Got moved because of a seat swap? Way too many reasons to start making exceptions. You'll see a constant stream running to the front.
Did she tell the FA's she was pregnant? The article doesn't state that she said that either.
Yes, common courtesy would say give her the benefit of the doubt, but again you're setting a precedent. She asked for them to take care of the circumstance and they did to the best of their abilities. It's a 2 hour flight give or take (excluding time on the ground). We aren't talking about YVR-SYD or anything long.
It's only a matter of time before we see more craziness on CBC regarding AC... "Transgendered person upset AC would not let them use J lavatory because they felt uncomfortable passing white male holding bible". Wouldn't shock me. :P
People could bump her in the Zone 1 / 2 / 58 line and cause the same issues unintentionally.
The flight attendants moved the man away from her. They had police and whatnot speak to the passenger. I would assume they would determine if he was a safety risk before deciding to move him (ie, remove him from flight instead).
She says she "suggested" she could use the front washroom. Did she actually state she was afraid to pass the man? Perhaps if she was more specific they might have been fine with letting her use the washroom. Regardless of whether she's pregnant or not, this would open a can of worms anytime someone gets moved for whatever reason.
Got moved so a family could sit together? Got moved because of a seat swap? Way too many reasons to start making exceptions. You'll see a constant stream running to the front.
Did she tell the FA's she was pregnant? The article doesn't state that she said that either.
Yes, common courtesy would say give her the benefit of the doubt, but again you're setting a precedent. She asked for them to take care of the circumstance and they did to the best of their abilities. It's a 2 hour flight give or take (excluding time on the ground). We aren't talking about YVR-SYD or anything long.
It's only a matter of time before we see more craziness on CBC regarding AC... "Transgendered person upset AC would not let them use J lavatory because they felt uncomfortable passing white male holding bible". Wouldn't shock me. :P
Feb 14, 2018, 9:21 pm
#62
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38 weeks is an issue... unless you have a
doctors note. 36 weeks is not (unless in say Air Transat).
Bear in mind it’s not really 9 months, it’s 40 weeks, that just tends to be about 9 months cos you know, 4x12 is 48 not 52 which all those pesky months with > 28 days.
doctors note. 36 weeks is not (unless in say Air Transat).
Bear in mind it’s not really 9 months, it’s 40 weeks, that just tends to be about 9 months cos you know, 4x12 is 48 not 52 which all those pesky months with > 28 days.
Feb 14, 2018, 9:51 pm
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Perhaps the only seats available were in Y. There have been times when that's all I could get and I was forced to sit amongst the great unwashed. In respect to the FA, it is possible she had one of those infamous gems working the plane. All it takes is one jerk FA.
Also remember, the captain was involved initially.
Feb 14, 2018, 10:25 pm
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Did you read post 12 and post 47 and a few of the corrections made by other posters in between?
If you did scroll back there, you'd see I pointed out it was Global. @jazzsax corrected his mistaken assumption in post 16.
As for bringing CBC into a rant or a thread here on AC FT, it's kind of like auto-reflex.
It will likely take a few more therapy sessions to get people to break the CBC-Air Canada habit. LOL
Feb 15, 2018, 5:28 am
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I’m not siding with preggers here. We really don’t have any concrete proof or evidence that the gentleman next to her did anything wrong. All that can be confirmed at this point is that a woman dramic enough to contact the media because she allegedly felt threaten, made an unsubstantiated claim against another passenger which the flight crew is obviously obligated to respond to. The other passenger was stable enough to change to what was likely an inferior seat without causing any sort of fuss. The police were never contacted and so far we haven’t seen any sort of cell phone videos from other passengers showing an outraged, aggressive passenger like the one described in the article.
I do think this woman’s attitude reaks of entitlement and the only mistake the flight crew made IMO was not accepting her re-quest to de-plane. Personally don’t think it would have been a big deal for her to use the J bathroom, but then again I don’t speak for the other passengers who may value that sort of bathroom exclusivity when they consider the price of their tickets.
I do think this woman’s attitude reaks of entitlement and the only mistake the flight crew made IMO was not accepting her re-quest to de-plane. Personally don’t think it would have been a big deal for her to use the J bathroom, but then again I don’t speak for the other passengers who may value that sort of bathroom exclusivity when they consider the price of their tickets.
Feb 15, 2018, 7:00 am
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No news here here. Its all about safe space as far as I see it. The lady should not be traveling with her current state of mind. She could have been a nuisance on the subsequent flight as well. De-planing was not a solution but no flying is.
Feb 15, 2018, 7:13 am
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And the crew, at least before the door is closed, does not need to "accept" the PAX de-planing. She could just leave. Again, we don't know the details of the conversation, notice of inconveniencing 100 random strangers needing to wait to have her bag pulled isn't a threat or a negotiating tactic, but a statement of reality.
Feb 15, 2018, 7:38 am
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I’m not siding with preggers here. We really don’t have any concrete proof or evidence that the gentleman next to her did anything wrong. All that can be confirmed at this point is that a woman dramic enough to contact the media because she allegedly felt threaten, made an unsubstantiated claim against another passenger which the flight crew is obviously obligated to respond to. The other passenger was stable enough to change to what was likely an inferior seat without causing any sort of fuss. The police were never contacted and so far we haven’t seen any sort of cell phone videos from other passengers showing an outraged, aggressive passenger like the one described in the article.
I do think this woman’s attitude reaks of entitlement and the only mistake the flight crew made IMO was not accepting her re-quest to de-plane. Personally don’t think it would have been a big deal for her to use the J bathroom, but then again I don’t speak for the other passengers who may value that sort of bathroom exclusivity when they consider the price of their tickets.
I do think this woman’s attitude reaks of entitlement and the only mistake the flight crew made IMO was not accepting her re-quest to de-plane. Personally don’t think it would have been a big deal for her to use the J bathroom, but then again I don’t speak for the other passengers who may value that sort of bathroom exclusivity when they consider the price of their tickets.
Feb 15, 2018, 7:59 am
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Feb 15, 2018, 8:10 am
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Generally agree. Except this story is about someone asking (ie not expecting) to use the J lav under particularly unusual circumstances. Surely everyone can recognize that distinction...
Feb 15, 2018, 8:29 am
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