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Old Feb 14, 2018, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by Stranger
I am a bit surprised she was not in J. SE, eight months pregnant, obviously can afford it. Seated in a middle or window seat?

For the FA to deny her the use of the J toilet, again, SE, eight moths pregnant, I have a feeling that perhaps there was a bit more to the affair than the one-sided report we have here.
As you know, not every SE flies J all the time:
In addition to being eight months pregnant, Freed is an Air Canada Altitude 100K customer. She said her company spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on flights with the airline annually.
Or perhaps it was R0?
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
If there was a real threat, I don't understand why the flight was allowed to depart with both passengers on board.
I was on a flight last Friday from DEN to YVR. We were late leaving the gate due to computer issue at the gate with passport verification and then we had to deice. The captain informed us that there may be some issues with connections as a result of the delay. After we deiced, we were taxiing slowly and both FAs were chatting at the front. I was not paying attention until we stopped and I realized we were back at the gate. As soon as we stopped, the Captain came out and had the FAs move to the cockpit. The Captain looked PI$$ED. Bridge moves to plane and then someone boarded and the Captain and this gentleman went to the back and then escorted a passenger off. A few minutes later and a police officer was on board speaking with the Captain. The Captain finally was able to make an announcement and explained that the passenger was not happy with the delays and was causing a concern for the crew and fellow passengers. Now, many passengers, including some Asia bound ones would miss their connections as we had to get more fuel and deice again. I think everyone that I spoke with in J agreed that the Captain made a good call. Always easier to deal with them on the ground!
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
It seems like people really lack compassion and empathy now days. The horror! The horror of a pregnant women using the J bathroom!
Though her playing "I am SE" card kinda triggered me
Existing in this world does not have a requirement to have compassion and empathy. Only two requirements in the world...

1) Pay your taxes
2) Die someday.

Everything else is optional (with consequences)
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by jazzsax
Existing in this world does not have a requirement to have compassion and empathy. Only two requirements in the world...

1) Pay your taxes
2) Die someday.

Everything else is optional (with consequences)
Or you know... just become a better human being?
It really isn't THAT hard.

One have a right to be a butthole, but does One really want to be one?
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by jazzsax
...she can easily buy paid J, use e-ups and sit in the front...
Originally Posted by Stranger
I am a bit surprised she was not in J. ... obviously can afford it
I see it's so easy to judge the finances of others.

Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
Though her playing "I am SE" card kinda triggered me
What triggered you? The story doesn't even remotely suggest that she played the "I am SE" card... the story says:

In addition to being eight months pregnant, Freed is an Air Canada Altitude 100K customer.
Those words are being used to describe her and bring context to the story. There's no indication whatsoever that she played any card whatsoever other than, "I'm an 8-month old pregnant woman who's being hassled by my seat mate."
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by ffsim

What triggered you? The story doesn't even remotely suggest that she played the "I am SE" card... the story says:
Those words are being used to describe her and bring context to the story. There's no indication whatsoever that she played any card whatsoever other than, "I'm an 8-month old pregnant woman who's being hassled by my seat mate."
Someone had to have told Global that she was SE. I don't see her being SE or not has any relevance to the story.
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
I don't see her being SE or not has any relevance to the story.
You genuinely don't think the context of an experienced flyer doesn't add any relevance to the story?
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:18 pm
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Eat or be eaten. Sometimes you have to deal with tough love. Don't like it? Too bad.

You can be a better human but still be blunt / direct / etc. You don't know me, I don't know you. I actually have a ton of compassion in most cases. But I have minimal compassion for people who tend to cry for attention. :P
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
Someone had to have told Global that she was SE. I don't see her being SE or not has any relevance to the story.
It must have been her luggage tags that clued them in!
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by jazzsax
You don't know me, I don't know you. I actually have a ton of compassion in most cases. But I have minimal compassion for people who tend to cry for attention. :P
Just to clarify in case my reply was murky, I wasnt suggesting that you lack compassion or empathy.
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by ffsim
You genuinely don't think the context of an experienced flyer doesn't add any relevance to the story?
Maybe you are right...
I don't know how I really feel about this one to be honest.
Originally Posted by Bohemian1
It must have been her luggage tags that clued them in!
Oh lol,
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
Maybe you are right...
I don't know how I really feel about this one to be honest.
It seemed from your bolding/emphasis/shouting in your previous reply that you knew exactly how you felt about it.

The job of the reporter writing this story is to dig up as many details as possible and paint as clear a picture as possible of what happened. Indicating that the protagonist is an experienced flyer lends credence to the claims being presented because the reader is led to believe that she flies enough to know the difference between an "armrest hog" and a legitimate threat. It's meant to avoid claims that "she's making a mountain out of a molehill," or that "she overreacted."

Maybe the reporter should've also included some bank records for our resident sceptics.
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by ffsim
The job of the reporter writing this story is to dig up as many details as possible and paint as clear a picture as possible of what happened. Indicating that the protagonist is an experienced flyer lends credence to the claims being presented because the reader is led to believe that she flies enough to know the difference between an "armrest hog" and a legitimate threat. It's meant to avoid claims that "she's making a mountain out of a molehill," or that "she overreacted.".
All of that is good, but still represents only one side of the story.

If this person really is SE, you'd think she would be in this forum seeking out witnesses to her plight
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by ffsim
It seemed from your bolding/emphasis/shouting in your previous reply that you knew exactly how you felt about it.

The job of the reporter writing this story is to dig up as many details as possible and paint as clear a picture as possible of what happened. Indicating that the protagonist is an experienced flyer lends credence to the claims being presented because the reader is led to believe that she flies enough to know the difference between an "armrest hog" and a legitimate threat. It's meant to avoid claims that "she's making a mountain out of a molehill," or that "she overreacted."

Maybe the reporter should've also included some bank records for our resident sceptics.
Well lets break it down from my first reply
- I def feel letting her using the J washroom under her circumstance was not an issue at all
- I did make a note about her play the "SE Card"

Then we had a back and forth which you replied
Originally Posted by ffsim
You genuinely don't think the context of an experienced flyer doesn't add any relevance to the story?
Which then made me realized I did not think about the point you brought up at all prior.
So naturally I felt that perhaps you are right but I am still not sure how I feel about the SE line in the article.
If you go back to my first reply to the article, I def thought her using the J washroom given the circumstance should not be an issue at all

I use bold to place emphasis, not shouting
All Caps on the other hand........
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Plumber
All of that is good, but still represents only one side of the story.

If this person really is SE, you'd think she would be in this forum seeking out witnesses to her plight
Yep, as I said in my very first post the story is definitely one-sided.

And I'm also waiting for her to pop up on FT looking for witnesses or approval or moral support
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