mattc2

I have a J AP award for YYZ-YUL-IST-PVG booked for the wife

Only the first leg is in Y for YYZ-YUL. After booking the ticket, I found PE opening (W), the phone agent won't let me upgrade for free, insisting it has to be I space because it's a J ticket. otherwise she would charge me $100

Anyway, does anyone know if I get J benefits when checking in at YYZ? i.e. priority check in/lounge? considering the longhaul is on TK J. and would I be entitled to J baggage allowance?

TIA

pitz

Yes, you should get all the J benefits, plus you go on the waitlist (in preference to anyone else not confirmed pretty much) for actual J seating. Good chance they'll just clear you at check-in on a flight like YUL-YYZ where revenue J seats aren't commonly sold.

canadiancow

They should move you into PY if there's reward space available at no charge.

Stranger

Still insist in making that claim when it has been amply debunked quoting AC management, eh?

pitz

Hasn't been debunked at all (the quote from "AC management" was with respect to upgrade priorities -- this is *not* an upgrade, but merely waitlisting into one's ticketed and paid for class of service!!!!). Still insist on trolling?

Stranger

That was changed a very long time ago. And that scenario is actually covered in the so-called upgrade priorities even if arguably it's not an upgrade.

canadiancow

No, the quote was explicitly about this.

But I had a few back and forth emails with Ben after a concierge showed me the onload list for a flight I was booked in X on a business ticket.

Cabin, status, fare class, check-in time.

But X to I is above to Y to R, WITHIN your cabin/status group.

So as SE on a two cabin plane, you're only behind SEMMs (as I was on my flight). But with no status, you're behind a P25K trying to eUpgrade.

Stranger

You don't expect him to admit, do you?

pitz

No, its still not an upgrade. (op) Upgrade priorities do not matter to those on the waitlist. eUpgrades come from R space, which is confirmed space once its been processed. They won't de-confirm a confirmed upgrade to accommodate anyone on a waitlist, full revenue passenger or AP ticket holder. They only de-confirm upgrades if there's an aircraft swap or a J-entitled deadheading captain shows up.

If the P25k can confirm an upgrade into the last seat available from R space, then the waitlist people are out of luck. That would be a pretty rare situation though, as R would have been zero'ed out long before then.

Status isn't even coded on most AP redemption tickets. How may threads do we have about people having trouble getting their Altitude benefits when flying on redemptions???? Lol. Again, you're talking about the op-upgrade priority schema, and not that of waitlisting when one has been ticketed on a J AP reservation but could only confirm certain segments in the X (Y cabin).

canadiancow

No, I'm specifically talking about "waitlisting when one has been ticketed on a J AP reservation but could only confirm certain segments in the X (Y cabin)".

There is one onload list for a flight. It covers eUpgrades, standby, "waitlisting" (your word, not mine), and everything else where one wants to sit somewhere they're not confirmed. The priority on this list is as I described. Paid J might be different, but I haven't seen any evidence to support that. I've seen lots of evidence for reward J. Not anecdotes, evidence

As for status showing up, it's almost always possible. You just need a competent agent. And it's very important, because it affects your onload priority. I want my K**SE.

Why don't you just email Ben and ask him? He's a nice guy, and responds to emails quickly.