May 11, 2017, 3:09 pm
Last edit by: yyznomad
Such that it is actually searchable text - one of the important changes to the Aeroplan program in 2019 for Super Elites:
New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.
Read the below screenshots for the rest.
July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15¤tLanguage=en
New chart with fees in this post
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html
Older news releases from 2017 below
Air Canada "What You Need to Know"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html
Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135
Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09
Aeroplan & Air Canada update
We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311
From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do
Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/
August 11 2017
"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."
https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096
"Five things you need to know about your miles"
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
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New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.
Read the below screenshots for the rest.
July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15¤tLanguage=en
New chart with fees in this post
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html
Older news releases from 2017 below
Air Canada "What You Need to Know"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html
Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135
Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09
Aeroplan & Air Canada update
We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311
From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do
Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/
August 11 2017
"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."
https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096
"Five things you need to know about your miles"
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
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Air Canada to Launch Its Own Loyalty Program in 2020
May 14, 2018, 8:53 pm
#1126
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: AC 100K SE (*G), Marriott P, SPG G, Hilton D
Posts: 611
I can't see this helping their stock price. They just made crystal clear that they are only with AP due to AC, and intend to leave with them. That's one issuer gone, only two more to go. So while they are trying to spin this as good, the PR could have just as easily said, "AmEx announces intent to leave AP on June 29, 2020".
May 14, 2018, 9:23 pm
#1127
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Canada
Programs: AC SE 2MM, HH Dd, SPG; IC Pl/A; AA; DL
Posts: 14,321
)Adapting to a new reality likely brings even more opportunities than we are now imagining (especially for us Million/MultiMillion Milers)^
May 14, 2018, 9:51 pm
#1128
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YEG
Programs: AC Lifetime SE100K, 3MM, SPG Lifetime Plat, Hertz PC, National Executive Elite
Posts: 2,901
I can't see this helping their stock price. They just made crystal clear that they are only with AP due to AC, and intend to leave with them. That's one issuer gone, only two more to go. So while they are trying to spin this as good, the PR could have just as easily said, "AmEx announces intent to leave AP on June 29, 2020".
May 14, 2018, 9:53 pm
#1129
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YEG
Programs: AC Lifetime SE100K, 3MM, SPG Lifetime Plat, Hertz PC, National Executive Elite
Posts: 2,901
May 14, 2018, 10:32 pm
#1131
Join Date: May 2012
Location: BKK/SIN/YYZ/YUL
Programs: DL, AC, Bonvoy, Accor, Hilton
Posts: 2,920
I have decided that I will do my utmost
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May 14, 2018, 10:41 pm
#1132
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: YYJ
Programs: AC SE*MM, Bonvoy LT Plat, HH Gold, National EE, Sixt Plat, Hz 5*
Posts: 2,439
I'm a last minute kinda guy. T-14 days is a good timeframe for booking sonetsome. Even for my business travel today I booked yesterday, then changed my flight again before departure .
May 15, 2018, 5:58 am
#1133
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 394
I want to book premium class for a trip to Italy in 2019, and that's frustrating too......I'm expecting that will be my last Aeroplan use, if I can actually use them.
May 15, 2018, 8:59 am
#1135
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
And if they're going to have the new AC program as a partner, than I'm less worried about my MR balance.
May 15, 2018, 9:32 am
#1136
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YEG
Programs: AC Lifetime SE100K, 3MM, SPG Lifetime Plat, Hertz PC, National Executive Elite
Posts: 2,901
I am interested in knowing how, since all of my AE miles are accumulated by flying AC, AC will ensure that those miles will still have value after mid 2020. I do get that AC shouldn't be as concerned about miles that are accumulated by folks using an AE credit card. But those miles earned by flying hundreds of thousands of miles on their metal, should be a different story.
I am avoiding speculation, though. Just saying that I am interested in seeing how it will be handled.
May 15, 2018, 5:09 pm
#1137
Join Date: May 2012
Location: BKK/SIN/YYZ/YUL
Programs: DL, AC, Bonvoy, Accor, Hilton
Posts: 2,920
I suppose it will come down to what happens to the AE points earned between now and June 2020. I think that is the main issue with the separation, not just with credit cards, but also for those who fly with AC for the next 2 years.
those miles earned by flying hundreds of thousands of miles on their metal, should be a different story.
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those miles earned by flying hundreds of thousands of miles on their metal, should be a different story.
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May 16, 2018, 1:20 am
#1138
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: YXE
Posts: 3,050
Do they understand that no matter how hard they try, the general public will always associate Aeroplan with AC, and thus, the amount of damage done to AC's brand equity will be significant if they cut off the relationship?
Maybe the 'end game' is simply for AC to re-absorb AP. Think Aimia's shareholders would take a half billion in AC stock for the company?
May 16, 2018, 1:42 am
#1139
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,775
Do they understand that no matter how hard they try, the general public will always associate Aeroplan with AC, and thus, the amount of damage done to AC's brand equity will be significant if they cut off the relationship?
Maybe the 'end game' is simply for AC to re-absorb AP. Think Aimia's shareholders would take a half billion in AC stock for the company?
May 16, 2018, 2:45 am
#1140
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: YXE
Posts: 3,050
As long as AC gives some sort of reasonable deal to people who've racked up miles mainly by flying, like YEG_SE4Life, those people aren't going to care much about the transition. As for FOTSGs and their association with AC, AC doesn't care very much what they think. Those people are heavily motivated by price anyway and will either not care or will quickly get over the transition.
I just don't buy it. ACE/AC got cheap financing by spinning AP off in the mid 2000s. The owners of AP only minimally benefitted and the implied return on their investment was very low, if not negative for the cumulative entire existence of AP/Aimia since the spin-off. AC may have the benefit of arrogance with load factors high, but the airline industry is notoriously cyclical, and the other side of the cycle looks extremely ugly and appears to be increasingly upon us going forward.