AC455 today: you had ONE job. ONE JOB!
Apr 1, 2017, 9:07 pm
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Apr 2, 2017, 12:01 am
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Given that it takes what... three(?) people to guide a plane in, I'm not sure I'd be so quick to assign full blame to the vehicle. Partial, sure. But isn't it someone's job to watch the wing and make sure it has clearance? I know when I was packing hangars with smaller aircraft, we always had someone on the wing for that reason, so I assumed the guy on the tarmac at the wing was doing the same thing.
Apr 2, 2017, 12:10 am
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Given that it takes what... three(?) people to guide a plane in, I'm not sure I'd be so quick to assign full blame to the vehicle. Partial, sure. But isn't it someone's job to watch the wing and make sure it has clearance? I know when I was packing hangars with smaller aircraft, we always had someone on the wing for that reason, so I assumed the guy on the tarmac at the wing was doing the same thing.
But then again, I've seen this happen several times with people moving large machinery under energized high-voltage power lines (!) and guesstimating the clearance rather than properly measuring it.
Apr 2, 2017, 12:15 am
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Given that it takes what... three(?) people to guide a plane in, I'm not sure I'd be so quick to assign full blame to the vehicle. Partial, sure. But isn't it someone's job to watch the wing and make sure it has clearance? I know when I was packing hangars with smaller aircraft, we always had someone on the wing for that reason, so I assumed the guy on the tarmac at the wing was doing the same thing.
Apr 2, 2017, 12:41 am
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Now I know what the Captain means when he announces, "sorry for the delay, we have to wait for someone who is qualified to to their hands in the air" 
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Apr 2, 2017, 4:19 am
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Given that it takes what... three(?) people to guide a plane in, I'm not sure I'd be so quick to assign full blame to the vehicle. Partial, sure. But isn't it someone's job to watch the wing and make sure it has clearance? I know when I was packing hangars with smaller aircraft, we always had someone on the wing for that reason, so I assumed the guy on the tarmac at the wing was doing the same thing.
Does it take 3? I've never had a wing walker being marshalled in. Pushing back yes. Ground crews are responsible for checking the area before the aircraft gets there, and for things like a moving truck (which shouldn't happen) should stop the aircraft. But I haven't seen their ops manual.
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Apr 2, 2017, 8:50 am
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Reminds me of a long ago Delta flight out of an outstation where I ended up getting rebooked because the baggage train hit the plane hard enough to cause a dent and the 'on call' mechanic needed to determine whether there was structural or cosmetic damage was apparently out fishing somewhere and taking a bit long to make it back to the airport.