24left

Just a heads-up for anyone on AC flights to or from LAX:

You will be delayed so if you have connections on either end, you might want to keep track of your flights and possibly make changes.

The delays announced last week on our outbound were said to be due to work on the LAX ATC system. Also, I see they have part of one of southern runways closed for work.

I received the AC delay notification while sitting onboard AC 791 and then the captain announced the delay and explained why.

This morning, I saw the delays here in LAX on the news and on the FAA website and on the AC Flight Status page. However, I have not received any Flight Notifications from AC.

Anyway, you may want to adjust your plans


FAA:

Due to OTHER / OTHER, there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving Los Angeles International Airport, Los Angeles, CA (LAX). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 1 hour and 37 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check "Delays by Destination".

http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/Airpor...jsp?q=lax&go=1

quantumofforce

I have to book a connection through LAX in late April, will it be done by then?

jlisi984

Good to know about last years' delays

24left

Thanks for catching that.
I'm still making that mistake and it's March

Welcome to 2017

24left

I don't see a date for the ATC work on any of the sites I searched. The runway construction is on the LAX website.

So, YMMV, but I'll advise if I find out anything


ADDING: The upper level departure ramp is also under construction, so hotel shuttles and some car rental shuttles are using the lower level Arrivals for both drop off and pick-up

quantumofforce

Maybe I will just connect through SFO or SEA and avoid LAX for the time being.

24left

So, LAX has a GDP as the locals call it - a Ground Delay Program in effect. I did not find out how long it will be on for, but it was not in effect on my previous trip, nor was the ramp construction. The runway construction has been ongoing for a couple of years and is documented in the LAX Airport construction and renovation update websites. And yes, I do check them if I have to go through there.

For a while they were working on the 2 northern parallel runways and now part of one of the southern is closed.

I was watching on AC flight taxi up, but due to the closure, the aircraft do a shorter turn onto the runway.

I took a photo of the construction area, but without a proper zoom, it may be hard to tell here.

My point for this thread is that AC has quite a number of flights to LAX. An it is about to move to another terminal.

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Adam Smith

I believe GDP is an FAA term, not an LAX-specific one, for what it's worth

eigenvector

SFO GDP is notoriously bad if you're coming in on a short-haul flight (e.g. YVR).

PilotTobe

GDP also applies in Canada, although the informal version is "flow"

24left

I assumed so too, except in the quote from the FAA website that I posted this morning, their words were:

"there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving Los Angeles International Airport"

Also, when I meant locals, I was referring to the AC staff and other LAX employees at LAX who mentioned GDP.

robsaw

Yup, had departure on AC557 delayed yesterday (Mar 6) due to inbound late because of what I believe the Capt called "ATC departure clearance out of Vancouver, and that's LAX ATC" or some similar emphasis. Then we were delayed for another 30 minutes or so because of a malfunction on arming one of the exit door slides.

Had similar inbound delay on a Westjet flight into LAX in December, although the driver of the pre-reserved car wouldn't believe it was LAX ATC that caused us to sit at the gate in Vancouver all ready to go.

24left

The captain on our AC 791 last week made a similar announcement re LAX ATC and we left 1.5 hours late. People missed their connections.

Today's AC 791 was also an hour or so late, thus our AC 792 left at 1:09 pm PT (versus sched departure of 11:50 am). We landed at 8:12pm versus 7:10.

As we were boarding, some pax told the crew they have connections.

Prior to landing, cabin crew read off a long list of connecting flights and instructions for pax. Based on what I heard, those connecting to 3 TATLs including CDG and MUC, missed their flights and would be met by agents.

It seems all those (long list) who missed their domestic connections were rebooked onto later flights as the crew read off the list of new flight numbers for each destination.

I'm wondering if AC need to make some kind of adjustment while this is going on.

If flights cannot depart reliably to LAX, and AC is then left having to deal with all these pax, this is going to make for a very sorry spring break or summer travel period, should it continue.

Adam Smith

Maybe they need to adopt DL's approach and pad the block times big time.

ruven

I flew on AC out of LAX T2 this morning (and each week for the past couple months) and haven't experienced these delays yet. Fingers crossed, I won't have to.