ACflyerDE

Found a proper paper version at my seat on AC 845 FRA-YYC this morning, looks pretty nice (other than the route map).

By the way, in German we use "Navi" as abbreviation for "Navigationsgerät" (navigation device), therefore the name was quite catchy right away to me.

Jumper Jack

That "Map" the definition of style over substance lol

songsc

Sometimes if you ask nicely, the captain is happy to give you the map, airport charts, check lists, etc after flight.

Also there is a website called skyvector, where all the air routes and waypoints are shown. It also allows you to creat a flight plan by entering all the waypoints.

24left

Some FTers here know that I have been successful in the "be charming and ask nicely" department.

I have an awesome collection of Polar Route maps from a number of my flights, and yes, waypoints but more exciting:
- the exact position where we were "crossing over the top" of the big blue ball
and
- the ETOPS locations

I also lucked out in having chats with crew about our positions at 80N and 87N.

While Google Maps and Google Earth etc are great tools and often fun, I'm a bit old school and I really enjoy holding and reading a paper map.

Now that crews have mostly switched over to the Jepp, no more Polar Maps

I also admit to having some issues understanding the newer documents they are using that have the jet stream and weather patters on them.

tracon

Interesting how advertising rates are included.
If I'm reading page 18 correctly, $230,000 for a 30 second advertisement after the safety briefing.
Audience 5,000,000.
=$.046/passenger. I would rather pay an extra 5 cents/trip than watch advertising.

Page 21 hints at advertising on the moving map. That's disappointing.

NordsFan

I like to more ops oriented content in Navi.

As for the maps, I think the look may have been inspired by some vintage graphics from the 1960s route maps.

Transpacificflyer

Fair enough, but the version you are kind enough to provide is more easily read. The Navi version may induce mini strokes and occular pressure damage events as people squint and grimace trying to make out info on the new maps.

BTW, your 1960's map is impressive because;
- It shows Moscow as a destination (never knew it was an AC destination)
- References Port Arthur/Fort William, now known as Thunder Bay.
- Shows Earlton airport as a serviced airport. Unfortunately, dynamic YXR doesn't have any commercial service now. The town of 1200 waits.

A rather enjoyable read. Thank you.

Shareholder

This is not replacing enROUTE, other than perhaps removing some of the AC related material in the back of the magazine. It's yet another mini-magazine like the one for the YYZ/YUL route, and the specials on wine, spirits, men's clothing, etc. NAVI becomes appropriate as it navigates us through the AC realm of aircraft, routes and behind the scenes activities.

Adam Smith

Finally had a chance to look at Navi this evening. I'm with the others here on the maps being hard to decipher. Not like the old great circle ones were always easy to figure out, but this verges on impossible.

More poor colour scheme choices, just like the planes.

That would actually be a very sensible piece of cost reduction on AC's part, I would think.

Lucid analysis and interesting idea!

Adam Smith

Looked at this again today. I'm surprised the "YYC isn't really a hub" crowd haven't shown up here to point out that there are terminal/connection guides for YYZ, YUL and YVR but not the "other" hub.

IluvSQ

In this issue of Navi,under SE privileges is " Priority Immigration".
I have never encountered that anywhere with AC.

Will they be handing out cards, like BKK, for priority lines?

Or will there be a special entrance into USA Immigration, like SIN or CGK?

Or....?

Wpgjetse

I like the new book and find it easy to follow. The type is a little small in some places and they mixed up the city locations on the MLL map.

Jasper2009

I wonder whether they mean the express passes J pax get when flying into LHR and CDG.

Sometimes SDs also hand them out to SEs; maybe there's a new policy to make that SOP.

Bartolo

I saw a hard copy of Navi. So not just electronic. I like the concept and a lot of the content. Completely agree that the maps are very difficult and text is too small for aging eyes. It's a smaller size than Enroute, but non standard. Cost saving??

24left

Saw a copy onboard the other day and brought it home.

I like the concept but the execution is weak in some areas.

I don't wear or need glasses so having to grab a magnifying glass at home means I'll never be able to read much of it onboard.

Font size is insanely tiny in many places. Font type in some places makes it impossible to see especially in contrast against some backgrounds (e.g.. front cover).

The network route maps are just too difficult to understand so maybe they are "decorative" as opposed to functional.

Overall, it seems like a handbook with some useful info, but the ability to actually read it will be limited by age and eyesight.

And yes, I am aware I can read the digital version.

Took a few photos.


Hey AIR CANADA, here's a suggestion:

Include the link to the digital edition of Navi with a brief description, when sending out e-tickets.

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