Best route to get to SYD in Business from YUL?
Jan 10, 2017, 6:01 am
#1
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Best route to get to SYD in Business from YUL?
Hello,
Planning a trip for 2 to Sydney next Feb on reward tickets and looking for the best possible route. Will need to book in a couple of weeks so simulating now. So far my options, by preference:
1- YUL-ORD/ORD-HND/HND SYD - By far best option: ANA+ low taxes is a winner. Downside: can't find 2 tickets on Business HND-SYD no matter what dates I look
2- YUL-YVR / YVR - SYD - just one connection (when direct YUL-YVR available!), high taxes (but not a sow stopper), not sure about the experience (AC+777-200). Anyone done it?
3- YUL-LAX / LAX - ICN / ICN - SYD - advantage LAX-ICN is great on business
4- YUL - YYZ / YYZ- ICN (on AC's 787) /ICN - SYD
Any recommendations or other options I didn't consider? Thanks!
Planning a trip for 2 to Sydney next Feb on reward tickets and looking for the best possible route. Will need to book in a couple of weeks so simulating now. So far my options, by preference:
1- YUL-ORD/ORD-HND/HND SYD - By far best option: ANA+ low taxes is a winner. Downside: can't find 2 tickets on Business HND-SYD no matter what dates I look
2- YUL-YVR / YVR - SYD - just one connection (when direct YUL-YVR available!), high taxes (but not a sow stopper), not sure about the experience (AC+777-200). Anyone done it?
3- YUL-LAX / LAX - ICN / ICN - SYD - advantage LAX-ICN is great on business
4- YUL - YYZ / YYZ- ICN (on AC's 787) /ICN - SYD
Any recommendations or other options I didn't consider? Thanks!
Jan 10, 2017, 6:23 am
#2
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 576
Hello,
Planning a trip for 2 to Sydney next Feb on reward tickets and looking for the best possible route. Will need to book in a couple of weeks so simulating now. So far my options, by preference:
1- YUL-ORD/ORD-HND/HND SYD - By far best option: ANA+ low taxes is a winner. Downside: can't find 2 tickets on Business HND-SYD no matter what dates I look
2- YUL-YVR / YVR - SYD - just one connection (when direct YUL-YVR available!), high taxes (but not a sow stopper), not sure about the experience (AC+777-200). Anyone done it?
3- YUL-LAX / LAX - ICN / ICN - SYD - advantage LAX-ICN is great on business
4- YUL - YYZ / YYZ- ICN (on AC's 787) /ICN - SYD
Any recommendations or other options I didn't consider? Thanks!
Planning a trip for 2 to Sydney next Feb on reward tickets and looking for the best possible route. Will need to book in a couple of weeks so simulating now. So far my options, by preference:
1- YUL-ORD/ORD-HND/HND SYD - By far best option: ANA+ low taxes is a winner. Downside: can't find 2 tickets on Business HND-SYD no matter what dates I look
2- YUL-YVR / YVR - SYD - just one connection (when direct YUL-YVR available!), high taxes (but not a sow stopper), not sure about the experience (AC+777-200). Anyone done it?
3- YUL-LAX / LAX - ICN / ICN - SYD - advantage LAX-ICN is great on business
4- YUL - YYZ / YYZ- ICN (on AC's 787) /ICN - SYD
Any recommendations or other options I didn't consider? Thanks!
Jan 10, 2017, 6:42 am
#3
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Huh, Never Thought Of Going THAT Way???
Jan 10, 2017, 8:13 am
#4
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Best possible route is whatever is available. SYD is very difficult to obtain business class
tickets, especially all the way and for 2 seats. If anything is available, grab it.
You could always try to fine tune at a later date, or when the inevitable schedule change comes up.
tickets, especially all the way and for 2 seats. If anything is available, grab it.
You could always try to fine tune at a later date, or when the inevitable schedule change comes up.
Jan 10, 2017, 8:16 am
#5
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In Feb 2016 flew YYZ-IST-SIN-MEL on AE Biz for 2 people. Downside was the 10 hr layover in IST (upside was the lounge!) I didn't try for hotel as didn't want to pay for visa. There was virtually no options available to fly SGN to SYD but several into MEL. We stopped for a few days in SIN before heading on. On return we flew MEL-PEK-CDG (Air China)stop for 5 days - YYZ. I gather there are too many problems with reservations on Air China now so don't know that I would risk it. Just thought I'd pass along the idea.
Jan 10, 2017, 8:35 am
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Did you check out NRT? Not sure if AE booking engine would show both airports if you just requested HND. Alternatively, I've found good award availability in premium cabins via PEK or PVG to Australia and CA isn't a bad airline in the front cabin. Even NZ space is often available if they haven't cut that route (NZ PVG/PEK-AKL-SYD).
Jan 10, 2017, 10:29 am
#7
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I recently booked one seat, all J in late March/early April:
YYZ-TPE-HKG, BR, Stop
HKG-ICN-SYD, OZ, Stop
SYD-BKK-SIN, TG & SQ, Stop
SIN-TPE-YYZ, BR
Quite a few other options, particularly involving TG.
It appeared that going via Europe with the stops in HKG and SIN as well as SYD as the destination was going to exceed the MPM, although seats were available. .
YYZ-TPE-HKG, BR, Stop
HKG-ICN-SYD, OZ, Stop
SYD-BKK-SIN, TG & SQ, Stop
SIN-TPE-YYZ, BR
Quite a few other options, particularly involving TG.
It appeared that going via Europe with the stops in HKG and SIN as well as SYD as the destination was going to exceed the MPM, although seats were available. .
Jan 10, 2017, 10:46 am
#8
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Just did this last May. Round trip on Business. I think I paid around $450 in taxes.
YYZ-SFO
SFO-ICN
ICN-SYD
YYZ-SFO
SFO-ICN
ICN-SYD
Hello,
Planning a trip for 2 to Sydney next Feb on reward tickets and looking for the best possible route. Will need to book in a couple of weeks so simulating now. So far my options, by preference:
1- YUL-ORD/ORD-HND/HND SYD - By far best option: ANA+ low taxes is a winner. Downside: can't find 2 tickets on Business HND-SYD no matter what dates I look
2- YUL-YVR / YVR - SYD - just one connection (when direct YUL-YVR available!), high taxes (but not a sow stopper), not sure about the experience (AC+777-200). Anyone done it?
3- YUL-LAX / LAX - ICN / ICN - SYD - advantage LAX-ICN is great on business
4- YUL - YYZ / YYZ- ICN (on AC's 787) /ICN - SYD
Any recommendations or other options I didn't consider? Thanks!
Planning a trip for 2 to Sydney next Feb on reward tickets and looking for the best possible route. Will need to book in a couple of weeks so simulating now. So far my options, by preference:
1- YUL-ORD/ORD-HND/HND SYD - By far best option: ANA+ low taxes is a winner. Downside: can't find 2 tickets on Business HND-SYD no matter what dates I look
2- YUL-YVR / YVR - SYD - just one connection (when direct YUL-YVR available!), high taxes (but not a sow stopper), not sure about the experience (AC+777-200). Anyone done it?
3- YUL-LAX / LAX - ICN / ICN - SYD - advantage LAX-ICN is great on business
4- YUL - YYZ / YYZ- ICN (on AC's 787) /ICN - SYD
Any recommendations or other options I didn't consider? Thanks!
Jan 10, 2017, 1:23 pm
#9
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YUL (of course)
Posts: 81
Trip to SYD in Oct
I managed to book 2 J seats YUL-YVR-HND-SYD. The AE site wasn't showing that option, I found it manually by looking at each segment. Had to call to book it and was not able to get the booking fee cancelled.
Jan 27, 2017, 12:21 pm
#10
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I'm saving miles for a similar ticket. If you dont mind me asking, how much were the taxes in total? I imagine the carrier surcharge is high?
Jan 27, 2017, 12:38 pm
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Jan 27, 2017, 1:32 pm
#12
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Helped a friend with this one last year:
YUL-IST (TK-J)
IST-BKK (TK-J)
BKK-SYD (TG-J) POT
---
SYD-SIN (SQ-J) stopover
---
SIN-NRT (NH-J) stopover
---
NRT-ORD (NH-J)
ORD-YUL (AC-J)
Cut out NRT try TPE on BR, in lieu of NRT and NH, to save on some fees.
I posted it here.
YUL-IST (TK-J)
IST-BKK (TK-J)
BKK-SYD (TG-J) POT
---
SYD-SIN (SQ-J) stopover
---
SIN-NRT (NH-J) stopover
---
NRT-ORD (NH-J)
ORD-YUL (AC-J)
Cut out NRT try TPE on BR, in lieu of NRT and NH, to save on some fees.
I posted it here.
Jan 27, 2017, 3:19 pm
#13
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Helped a friend with this one last year:
YUL-IST (TK-J)
IST-BKK (TK-J)
BKK-SYD (TG-J) POT
---
SYD-SIN (SQ-J) stopover
---
SIN-NRT (NH-J) stopover
---
NRT-ORD (NH-J)
ORD-YUL (AC-J)
Cut out NRT try TPE on BR, in lieu of NRT and NH, to save on some fees.
I posted it here.
YUL-IST (TK-J)
IST-BKK (TK-J)
BKK-SYD (TG-J) POT
---
SYD-SIN (SQ-J) stopover
---
SIN-NRT (NH-J) stopover
---
NRT-ORD (NH-J)
ORD-YUL (AC-J)
Cut out NRT try TPE on BR, in lieu of NRT and NH, to save on some fees.
I posted it here.
Is it the norm that you have to book shortly after release dates (360 days) ?
Jan 27, 2017, 6:40 pm
#14
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It certainly makes things easier if you snatch them up early after they are released, but not all airline release seats that far ahead in advance. For egs., UA and LX are 330 days, I believe. Plus, and someone like Master-rankourabu can confirm, I believe the airlines will all continue to trickle in new award inventory throughout the year.
Jan 28, 2017, 5:16 am
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It certainly makes things easier if you snatch them up early after they are released, but not all airline release seats that far ahead in advance. For egs., UA and LX are 330 days, I believe. Plus, and someone like Master-rankourabu can confirm, I believe the airlines will all continue to trickle in new award inventory throughout the year.