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Old Mar 14, 2017, 10:43 pm
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flyquiet has graciously commenced with a compilation of recent data points with regard to the most recent targeted status buy up offer.

Your contributions to this wiki are greatly appreciated!

Please post your data point offer below, as per the headings, and the comma delimiter.

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From AQM AQS AQD Offer Post#
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75k105% uns 88% 2499 N/A
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75K 70% 79% 125% no 238
 75K 76% uns 55% no 229
 75K 105% uns 53% no 210
 75K 116% uns 75% no 252
 75K 84% uns 47% no 254
 75K (unclear if given 50K or 75K, 64%, uns, 126%, no, 255
 75K uns 89% 85% 1599 129/162
 75K 81% 48% 92% 1299 151/160
 75k 83% uns 81% no 295
 50K 62% 88% 100% no 319
 50K 73% 41% 116% no 289
 50K 96% 74% 106% 899 266
 50K 80% uns 178% no 232
 50K uns uns uns 899 193
 35K 93% 46% 160% 899 125
 35K 88% 46% 133% 899 230
 35K 99% uns "enough", 799, 253
 35K 72% 31% 100% no ---
 35K 70% uns 100% no 181
 35K 61% 88% 264% 899 309
 25K 91% uns 150% 599 287
 25K uns 94% uns 599 123
 25K 71% 74% 200% no 195
 AC*A uns uns uns 499 127
 AC*A 79% 16% 104% 499 257
 AC*A 92% uns 87% 144
 AC*A 41% 8% 191% 399 258
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 9:42 am
  #421  
 
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I dont know if its too early to post this but it looks like I will be $41 ADQ short this year. My AQM will be at 115,00. Should I hope for the best or figure out somehow to get that last $41 spent without going over. (Its like the price is right, where you lose if you go over)
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by zsm1928
I dont know if its too early to post this but it looks like I will be $41 ADQ short this year. My AQM will be at 115,00. Should I hope for the best or figure out somehow to get that last $41 spent without going over. (Its like the price is right, where you lose if you go over)
There's actually a thread dedicated to the conundrum: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-canada-aeroplan/998088-i-am-x-miles-short-p-e-se-will-ac-give-status-anyway-9.html

The bottom line is it's never certain; if you really want the status, the only 100% way to get it is to qualify, but AC has been known to make exceptions.
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Old Dec 11, 2017, 12:37 pm
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If I was $0.01 short of SE I’d make it up given the differences between E75 and SE. Ease of doing this (cheaply and easily) depends greatly upon location.

Especially if one was $41 short of $10k and not resident within Canada.
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Old Jan 1, 2018, 1:53 pm
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In 2017 I qualified as 35K and received an offer to step to 50K on Dec 7th for $699. I already hit 50 segments by that point so decided to wait and see if I might have any last minute trips. I did but it wasn't enough to give me enough qualifying spend (I ended 2017 with 44% AQM (22,197), 108% AQS (54) and 84% AQD ($5083)). On Dec 28th I received a second email about the step up offer and logged in to accept it but the price was $ 899. Anyone had this happen where the price goes up (even though I flew 4 additional segments in December)?? Very frustrating to say the least.
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Old Jan 1, 2018, 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by puremega
In 2017 I qualified as 35K and received an offer to step to 50K on Dec 7th for $699. I already hit 50 segments by that point so decided to wait and see if I might have any last minute trips. I did but it wasn't enough to give me enough qualifying spend (I ended 2017 with 44% AQM (22,197), 108% AQS (54) and 84% AQD ($5083)). On Dec 28th I received a second email about the step up offer and logged in to accept it but the price was $ 899. Anyone had this happen where the price goes up (even though I flew 4 additional segments in December)?? Very frustrating to say the least.
I had that happen in 2016. I don't remember the exact prices offered, but I do remember the second invitation was $200 more than the first had been. I didn't take either of them, stayed at 35k for 2017.
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Old Jan 1, 2018, 3:31 pm
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What are the chances of a buy up option from e50 to e75 with $10,000 AQD, 55 AQS and 40,000 AQM?

thanks
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Old Jan 1, 2018, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by YLWflyer
What are the chances of a buy up option from e50 to e75 with $10,000 AQD, 55 AQS and 40,000 AQM?

thanks
Unknown, but around these parts 75k has no value beyond 50k
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Old Jan 1, 2018, 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by RangerNS
Unknown, but around these parts 75k has no value beyond 50k
Other than not being 50K.
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Old Jan 2, 2018, 10:46 am
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Ms. Boh got offered a buy up to P25K for about $500 just before the end of the year. She was at 23K at the time and a trip to LHR took her over anyway.

But that's a lot of money for very few privileges IMHO.
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Old Jan 2, 2018, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by YLWflyer
What are the chances of a buy up option from e50 to e75 with $10,000 AQD, 55 AQS and 40,000 AQM?

thanks
Low. ~80-85% was the standard last year. You are 73%.
I also, along with others, query the value of spending $750-$1000 on E75 over E50 unless you wish to gift someone.
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Old Jan 2, 2018, 1:37 pm
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Air Canada very strict

Originally Posted by puremega
In 2017 I qualified as 35K and received an offer to step to 50K on Dec 7th for $699. I already hit 50 segments by that point so decided to wait and see if I might have any last minute trips. I did but it wasn't enough to give me enough qualifying spend (I ended 2017 with 44% AQM (22,197), 108% AQS (54) and 84% AQD ($5083)). On Dec 28th I received a second email about the step up offer and logged in to accept it but the price was $ 899. Anyone had this happen where the price goes up (even though I flew 4 additional segments in December)?? Very frustrating to say the least.
I called AC to get a sense of why things changed and she said they could only see what was currently being offered ($899 + HST). I took it as I did a lot of Delta flights from YHZ-JFK last year and with that run now cancelled I will probably be doing more United YHZ-EWR and although it is crazy expensive (the step up costs more than a Maple Leaf lounge pass at 50% off as the reward) I can write it off. Next year I will start paying more attention in September and make sure I plan my travel better.
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Old Jan 5, 2018, 2:13 pm
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Likelihood Of Status Bump Offer

Hi,
A sweep must have happened today because I've gotten some new options, not the least of which is to select benefits.

In 2017 I had:
AQM: 40698
AQS: 34
AQD: $9608.78

I've been awarded E35K. With an AQD beyond the 75K, do you think at the very least I'll get offered to pay for a bump to 50K? Is it worth it based on the numbers for such a bump from last year?

Typically if that kind of offer was forthcoming would I have seen that before seeing this 35K applied? I've received no emails yet.

If not offered a paid bump to 50K & *G, can one ask to receive that offer?

For context, most journeys start in YYT causing the high spend. I typically book FLEX and pay for preferred seating. In 2017 most of this was split between travel to US and travel to the UK. I anticipate that in 2018 there will be more travel, mainly to US.

I expense everything so lounge access is not that big of a deal to me. I'm just as happy to eat and drink in other establishments. When I end up going overseas I don't mind paying for a PP lounge as I typically end up in some remote destinations that are not serviced by *A. I need to get a little smarter in those instances and use *A farther into the journey but I've been trying to get there as quick as possible up until now. For example two trips to Reunion Island last year orphaned a lot of miles I spent in seats between LHR and Roland Garros when if I had gone to Frankfurt or SA I could have earned more miles.

I'm more interested in a J upgrade from time to time on my return trips just as a treat to my 6'4" frame. I'm debating between selecting the 35% bonus or the 10 credits at this point.

Thanks for your thoughts.
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Old Jan 5, 2018, 2:28 pm
  #433  
 
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You're not even close to AQM or AQS for 50K...
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Old Jan 5, 2018, 2:36 pm
  #434  
 
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Thanks for pointing that out.

I'll admit that I was hoping someone could describe how they make the decision to offer it. Does it have to be a certain % below the threshold for both AQM/AQS & AQD or could significant overspend on AQD be enough to put one on this radar?
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Old Jan 5, 2018, 3:10 pm
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Nobody, outside of AC, really knows how that decision is made. Your guess is honestly as good as anyone elses.
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