New YYC International Terminal - Opens Oct 31/16
Sep 22, 2016, 9:23 am
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Sep 22, 2016, 9:30 am
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There is a corridor for OSS. Far corner of the connections primary inspection line is a door that leads to the OSS connections corridor. There are two CBSA primary inspection stations with numbers 3 & 4 above them, the CBSA officer confirms the traveler is not selected for secondary, is eligible for OSS and opens the door. There is an airline component to OSS. AC-AC and WS-WS connections are eligible, rumour is that UA-AC connections is imminent.
There is a second connections corridor process for anyone not eligible for OSS. This process occurs after the traveller exits the bag claim hall.
There is a second connections corridor process for anyone not eligible for OSS. This process occurs after the traveller exits the bag claim hall.
Sep 22, 2016, 9:42 am
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THIS !!!!!!
I look at YYZ T1, and I wonder what the GTAA etc were thinking when they built a nice, new terminal with no food offerings landside except a Tim's and Starbucks etc.
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Either the GTAA did not want to free up "real estate" for proper eateries, or the planner could not conceive the possibility of providing nice places to eat landside, thinking a quick drive onto Dixon or Airport Road would solve the problem.
At least YVR has a few options in that centre food area and some nice artwork and places to sit.
I look at YYZ T1, and I wonder what the GTAA etc were thinking when they built a nice, new terminal with no food offerings landside except a Tim's and Starbucks etc.
.....
Either the GTAA did not want to free up "real estate" for proper eateries, or the planner could not conceive the possibility of providing nice places to eat landside, thinking a quick drive onto Dixon or Airport Road would solve the problem.
At least YVR has a few options in that centre food area and some nice artwork and places to sit.
The restriction on landslide activities is born out of pax who miss their international flight and then claim they did not know International wide body flights board 45 minutes prior to departure. In some people's minds, they should be able to check two hours before departure, then have a sit down meal for 1.5 hours and still make their flight.
With specific reference to YYC new terminal, inside the new Marriott is a full service dining style restaurant. There is also a second option at the Delta hotel located across from AC Domestic checkin.
Sep 22, 2016, 9:49 am
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There are Nexus / Global entry machines as appropriate at the connections areas for both CBSA and USCBP.
Sep 22, 2016, 10:01 am
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From a modern terminal development perspective, the airport wants all traveler to be restricted to checkin, bag drop, preboard security on the landslide. Once through the majority of departure formalities the traveler is then exposed to food and retail options.
The restriction on landslide activities is born out of pax who miss their international flight and then claim they did not know International wide body flights board 45 minutes prior to departure. In some people's minds, they should be able to check two hours before departure, then have a sit down meal for 1.5 hours and still make their flight.
With specific reference to YYC new terminal, inside the new Marriott is a full service dining style restaurant. There is also a second option at the Delta hotel located across from AC Domestic checkin.
The restriction on landslide activities is born out of pax who miss their international flight and then claim they did not know International wide body flights board 45 minutes prior to departure. In some people's minds, they should be able to check two hours before departure, then have a sit down meal for 1.5 hours and still make their flight.
With specific reference to YYC new terminal, inside the new Marriott is a full service dining style restaurant. There is also a second option at the Delta hotel located across from AC Domestic checkin.
Sep 22, 2016, 10:47 am
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The divest station for preboard security xray machines is as described above. 5 travelers stand shoulder to shoulder to fill grey bins (smaller than the white bins used at checkpoint C but larger than grey bins used by the Americans). Issue is that your divest station will only fit two bins at once. The only way to get a third bin is to place the previous bin on the conveyor belt that leads to the xray machine. Problem is that if you need three bins your first bin is going to get separated from the last two because other travelers are divesting upstream of you. Also, if you are at the farthest divest station from the xray machine there is a wait for the bins while people downstream take additional bins. Overall CATSA will have to change their processes to get everyone to adhere to the 2 bins per traveler set up.
Sep 22, 2016, 10:58 am
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There is a corridor for OSS. Far corner of the connections primary inspection line is a door that leads to the OSS connections corridor. There are two CBSA primary inspection stations with numbers 3 & 4 above them, the CBSA officer confirms the traveler is not selected for secondary, is eligible for OSS and opens the door. There is an airline component to OSS. AC-AC and WS-WS connections are eligible, rumour is that UA-AC connections is imminent.
There is a second connections corridor process for anyone not eligible for OSS. This process occurs after the traveller exits the bag claim hall.
There is a second connections corridor process for anyone not eligible for OSS. This process occurs after the traveller exits the bag claim hall.
Sep 22, 2016, 11:01 am
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Sep 22, 2016, 11:14 am
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From a modern terminal development perspective, the airport wants all traveler to be restricted to checkin, bag drop, preboard security on the landslide. Once through the majority of departure formalities the traveler is then exposed to food and retail options.
The restriction on landslide activities is born out of pax who miss their international flight and then claim they did not know International wide body flights board 45 minutes prior to departure. In some people's minds, they should be able to check two hours before departure, then have a sit down meal for 1.5 hours and still make their flight.
With specific reference to YYC new terminal, inside the new Marriott is a full service dining style restaurant. There is also a second option at the Delta hotel located across from AC Domestic checkin.
The restriction on landslide activities is born out of pax who miss their international flight and then claim they did not know International wide body flights board 45 minutes prior to departure. In some people's minds, they should be able to check two hours before departure, then have a sit down meal for 1.5 hours and still make their flight.
With specific reference to YYC new terminal, inside the new Marriott is a full service dining style restaurant. There is also a second option at the Delta hotel located across from AC Domestic checkin.
Sep 22, 2016, 11:30 am
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I would assume international departures would still have access to an MLL after the new terminal opens?
Sep 22, 2016, 11:34 am
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Are we mixing to and from here?
Flying back to Canada and having to connect anywhere entails going through immigration and security before the connection, not just at YYZ. Of course that will change when OSS becomes a reality, for those with access.
Not sure what transiting directly *to* US or international has to do with the first sentence though?
Sep 22, 2016, 11:36 am
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Imagine the mess AC can get into when coming to IT... No paper backup?
Sep 22, 2016, 11:52 am
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It's a short (3-5 min) walk from the MLL to the International departures area, and I think part of the substantial renovation done to the MLL was in anticipation that it will be utilized for international customers as well. From what I could see, there is no physical barrier between domestic and international departures, the question will be whether there is a boarding pass check to enter the international zone.