segacs

No, I'm not. I'm saying that punitive measures have limited effectiveness in a marketplace where companies also get government bailouts.

cur

yeah but knowing canada everything will be done in this really expensive costly bureaucratic way that will just end up getting passed on to consumers. in the eu you have these ultra lccs that fly out of decommissioned air force bases in middle of nowhere ukraine to the algarve with a gdansk based crew that are willing to perform a job with inferior work rules at a fraction of the cost of a lh fra based crew. ya good luck having that outside of the box thinking in canada. remember the s---tfit rankandfile and the cbc had because rouge cabin crew had to pay for their own uniforms and training?

nothing is going to change until government is reduced and markets liberalized. look at the drama newleaf had to go thru simply because another--otherwise airworthy--airline was doing the flying. it's the same type of "oh it's not in the rules, can't do it. why? cause it's the rules. why? again, rules" kind of thinking govts are going thru with uber and so many other things.

if this country can't harmonize trade within its own provinces and controls everything down to maple syrup and milk do you think it can facilitate a liberalized passenger airline market?

btw i'm all for eu261-esque compensation and accountability but the government du canada will find a way to weasel out of actually doing something useful for the market despite having legislative and institutional capacity to do so. liberalize the market AND implement a reasonable pax bill of rights, not one and not the other. it won't happen.

what about the c series

aw come on man, some of us 'extreme' right wing people just want liberty and fairness for all. canada has a banned books list. balooning catsa surcharges and deteriorating service. really stupid and pointless parallel runways with billion dollar tunnels paid for by taxpayers instead of the airport that was forcing it. pax who drive hours to fly from bellingham or buffalo. those are jobs that could exist in canada.

CrownRoyalForever

Sure, but you could easily find the 80-ish percentile already flying and mandate the minimums in accordance. For example, a minimum 30-inch seat pitch will already easily be met by the US majors.

Of course, Rouge planes will hafta be rejigged but if these standards had already been in place, AC wouldn't have went lowest common denominator in the first place.


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Wpgjetse

I'm not saying it should not be done, but this would have to be a international standard. The Canadian market is way to small to set these type of rules.

The smallest state

Please all Canadians. Be careful what you wish for.

What do you seriously think will happen if AC starts flying between destinations in the US? Happy customers? Cheery passengers singing the praises of our neighbo(u)r to the North? Customer service good time posts?

No, this board will be overrun, I mean OVERRUN by irate Americans stuck in Albuquerque, Charlotte or Little Rock.

THIS WILL NOT END WELL. AC will singlehandedly destroy 200 years of great perceptions. Oh.......and that idea of Canadians being very polite? That'll be over faster Usain Bolt in the 100m dash. Seriously, one flight with a couple of well placed irate AC stewardess' will blow that up.

..........Now maybe an Air Canada Rougeeeeee commercial with Sarah Palin saying "Go Rogue" the American way (rhymes with Vogue) instead of Air Canada Rouge (as in red en francais) will get some interested pax but this is an absolute catastrophe for Canadian-US relations.

tcook052

Folks, let's stick to the thread topic and leave off topic matters for other forums.

tcok052
AC forum moderator

Sopwith

We should let the CRTC regulate the airlines. They'll get AC sorted out in no time.

segacs

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Thanks. I needed a good laugh.