Question: What keeps you flying Air Canada despite the occasional beef?
May 24, 2016, 4:42 pm
#16
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
Programs: Aeroplan SE 100 IHG Plat Amb Nexus
Posts: 667
May 24, 2016, 5:43 pm
#17
Join Date: May 2012
Location: BKK/SIN/YYZ/YUL
Programs: DL, AC, Bonvoy, Accor, Hilton
Posts: 2,920
My use of AC as a supplier has changed significantly over the past decade. It has gone from preferred supplier, to sentimental favourite, to only using it if;
1. The airline is an appropriate connector to one of my preferred international airlines or;
2. The price/schedule is right for my itinerary. I detest transiting the USA, or even flying there and pay the higher fares with AC to avoid the USA.
1. The airline is an appropriate connector to one of my preferred international airlines or;
2. The price/schedule is right for my itinerary. I detest transiting the USA, or even flying there and pay the higher fares with AC to avoid the USA.
May 24, 2016, 6:22 pm
#18
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: YYC, YVR & NYC
Programs: *A 50K, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 74
Several carrots, actually a costco size bag.
1. More destinations and frequency of flights than Westjet
2. SA Gold
3. Benefits of Status
4. Star Alliance
5. Aeroplan - some people have terrible experiences but I've booked two RTW's for my wife and I, and several other reward flights all in business to Europe.
1. More destinations and frequency of flights than Westjet
2. SA Gold
3. Benefits of Status
4. Star Alliance
5. Aeroplan - some people have terrible experiences but I've booked two RTW's for my wife and I, and several other reward flights all in business to Europe.
May 24, 2016, 8:11 pm
#20
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Programs: AC-E50. Marriott Plat
Posts: 313
my travel patterns (business + personal) make AC the best choice for me. I live in Toronto, I represent European and US companies to sell their products to Canadian companies. I travel coast to coast in Canada, and I visit suppliers and trade shows in Germany and USA. So, despite the beefs, AC still keeps me flying...
May 25, 2016, 1:12 pm
#21
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Why? Why? Zed! / Why? You? Elle! / Gee! Are You!
Programs: Irrelevant
Posts: 3,543
May 26, 2016, 2:46 am
#22
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE, AA Plat, SPG Plat, HH Diamond, PC Plat Ambassador, Hyatt Diamond, Fairmont Plat
Posts: 1,179
I wonder why the mods changed the title of this thread?
Although the new title is clearer, the original title was appropriate and deliberate as a counterpoint.
SG
Although the new title is clearer, the original title was appropriate and deliberate as a counterpoint.
SG
May 26, 2016, 2:53 am
#23
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Only J via Peasant Points, 777HDPeasant or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance and Narcissism.
Posts: 5,953
1. The gifted E35K Status(Whatever that is still worth anyways), and likely E50 next year
2. Only one with 777 on YYZ-YVR. (My flight in Canada is on 777/787 90% of the time, i go out of myway to make sure I am flying on them)- Small/Old plane phobia, but hey, make it more awful and that phobia would be cured, thank you AC!
3. Porter did not get runway extension. (It would have been amazing, you know, an Airline treating most people equally)
4. I am pretty close to another redemption so............
Here's hoping Porter can become Jet Blue of Canada. Grow and build out its own presence while maintaining its core values. If they actually manage to do it, I might just overcome my fear of small planes.
2. Only one with 777 on YYZ-YVR. (My flight in Canada is on 777/787 90% of the time, i go out of myway to make sure I am flying on them)- Small/Old plane phobia, but hey, make it more awful and that phobia would be cured, thank you AC!
3. Porter did not get runway extension. (It would have been amazing, you know, an Airline treating most people equally)
4. I am pretty close to another redemption so............
Here's hoping Porter can become Jet Blue of Canada. Grow and build out its own presence while maintaining its core values. If they actually manage to do it, I might just overcome my fear of small planes.
Last edited by Jumper Jack; May 26, 2016 at 3:39 am
May 26, 2016, 5:43 am
#24
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SEMM; AA,DL, Hyatt and Starwood. Ex-status:SQ PPS,CSA,Hilton,AA,UA
Posts: 743
Simple. I live in Ottawa and mainly travel longhaul in J.
- They can get me most conveniently to where I want to go. (It would force me to deviate to less convenient flight timings/routings to take anyone else)
- They meet my bar on service: safe, generally on time, flat beds in J. Everything else matters far less.
- In situations where #1 and #2 are not enough, they have titrated the loyalty benefits just enough that when I would otherwise be indifferent, I go for the AC option. (Due to IKK AE miles worth more to me than other programs, upgrades for my wife, etc)
- Altitude status really does help in IRROPS on AC metal (concierges, better/more proactive rebooking -- as well as just more alternative choices to my destination)
May 26, 2016, 1:15 pm
#25
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: Aeroplan, BA Executive Club, Asia Miles
Posts: 218
Domestically always AC (unless WJ way way cheaper)...internationally I'm not too, too loyal, but usually *A, and if there isn't much difference in schedule/price tie goes to AC
May 26, 2016, 1:38 pm
#26
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 277
They serve more of my travel plans than other carriers. I'm based in Toronto, so even if I wanted to take UA/etc it usually involves an AC flight first.
New York - most carriers do Toronto-NYC
SFO - most US carriers do this, but with a transfer... AC does direct
Vancouver/Calgary - Westjet comes to mind as cheaper
HKG - many carriers, but most don't serve US market as well
Taiwan - many carriers, but most don't serve US market as well
New York - most carriers do Toronto-NYC
SFO - most US carriers do this, but with a transfer... AC does direct
Vancouver/Calgary - Westjet comes to mind as cheaper
HKG - many carriers, but most don't serve US market as well
Taiwan - many carriers, but most don't serve US market as well
May 26, 2016, 1:40 pm
#27
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 277
What makes them "better" than Westjet? Westjet prices are typically lower (for locations they both serve). The people are supposedly friendlier.
May 26, 2016, 4:50 pm
#29
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC E50K (*G) WS Gold | SPG/Fairmont Plat Hilton/Hyatt Diamond Marriott Silver | National Exec Elite
Posts: 19,284
May 26, 2016, 4:52 pm
#30
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Location: YVR
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