Originally Posted by Transpacificflyer

You are missing more than something here. I would say, you are missing the plot,the big picture, the importance that the transaction had to the Canadian national economy and to national security.
It will be vital to Bombardier's well being to maintain a relationship with a large well funded and EU protected multinational so that it can withstand the bullying of the indirectly state subsidized and protected Boeing. Locating the plant in Alabama, a diehard GOP state was a stroke of genius. Nothing changes US legislators votes than money, and the Airbus plant will drop a lot of it into a state that needs it. Consider the plant an inoculation against a deadly disease called greed.

The use of a term "bailout" is inappropriate. What the federal and provincial governments did was to protect intellectual capital and a key driver of Canadian aerospace engineering and innovation. Most of Canada's aerospace workers owe their jobs to the existence of Bombardier. It provides a training ground to develop expertise, a facility to support and purchase services and products from other Canadian firms and most importantly, a way in which to keep Canadian capital in Canada. Many young people get their early work experience and training at a Bombardier facility or subcontractor. They then move on to other operations and companies.
Bombardier had to sacrifice a portion of itself to do this, but it is well worth it.
The people who disparage the assistance given Bombardier have no appreciation of what happens to a country that loses key manufacturing sectors. Some people are content to allow Canada to be sold off to foreign buyers who care nothing for the country, as long as they can make a bit of quick dosh, or to see Canadian workers enslaved and without hope working for firms who contribute nothing to the nation.

I see Boeing as a bully, and a misguided one at that. It targeted Bombardier because it assumed it could kill the company and come in and pick up the market and/or assets. Misguided because Boeing targeted harmless, insignificant Bombardier while the Chinese and Russians were working together to challenge Boeing and Airbus. Boeing is about to get its comeuppance as the Chinese will soon be dumping aircraft in the international market and eating Boeing's breakfast. The Chinese have been providing bigger and more sophisticated components and assembling Boeing and Airbus planes for decades. Now they will launch their own versions. Boeing will be sucking wind.
I used to love Boeing, but no more. Greedy company that targeted a harmless company transaction and that sought to intimidate and violate the nation of Canada. To Boeing I say, remember the fate of Compaq, Kodak, Polaroid, DeSoto, American Motors et al because your time will come too.

Originally Posted by flybit

either way $6 billion was spent on the C series and we just sold 51% for $1. Perhaps we will be doing the same with the train/subway division also. without question Bombardier, creates jobs but you do have to ask what could we get with the billions of Federal/Provincial subsides if we invested in other industries. Bombardier is a govt investment, and reality is we need to invest that money wisely, could the money be spent better, more efficiently, more cost effective?

Originally Posted by Bohemian1

I had a ride on a Swiss C-100 from GVA to BCN last week in J and really liked the plane. This one still had that new plane smell. Other thand the SD really having to hustle meal and drink service on such a short flight, he said he really liked the A/C. Looking forward to my first trip on an AC version of this plane.

Originally Posted by Stranger

Gogo'2KU inflight wifi selected on CSewries

https://www.reuters.com/article/brie...-idUSFWN1RM0LR

Originally Posted by ChrisA330

Gogo's 2KU wifi has been selected by Air Canada for the CS300. A quote of interest:

"We also are excited to work with Bombardier to have this technology installed at the factory."

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...679142193.html

Originally Posted by flybit

the real question is will AC get delivery of these planes. Bombardier, has had lots of issues, and not just getting engines.

Originally Posted by KDS777

I don't see Westjet running over there with their cheque book open to by the new C-series.

Originally Posted by KDS777

If Bombardier was not a Quebec based company, and Air Canada did not owe it's existence to decades of liberal subsidies, hence long overdue favor's to be repaid, this would not have happened.

Sometimes, the truth is not always politically correct for a few people to hear...........but it still is the truth.

I don't see Westjet running over there with their cheque book open to by the new C-series.

Originally Posted by 24left

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Noticed this item listed in the current issue of Navi magazine, pg 9 "Air Canada Fleet"