Air Canada Altitude 2016 program for 2017 status
Nov 23, 2015, 12:06 pm
#16
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MLL / AC Cafe
Programs: It's hard to get status when the website won't let me book flights.
Posts: 5,706
If they are going to demand $20,000 spend for 100K they better tell us what the 100K program will include for 2017 before as well..........
Nov 23, 2015, 12:06 pm
#17
Formerly known as jsfrSuperElite
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hong Kong, Montreal
Programs: Air Canada SE100K-1MM, Hilton Honors Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 590
Surprised that there hasn't be any email announcements yet regarding those changes...
Nov 23, 2015, 12:08 pm
#18
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Quebec and Ontario, Canada
Programs: AC*E50, SPG/Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,917
Nov 23, 2015, 12:08 pm
#19
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SE (*A Gold), Bonvoy Platinum Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum / AP Reserve, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,691
The $20k minimum indeed seems disproportionate to the other tiers, but the 014 stock requirement is even more restrictive, IMO. The mantra of 'never book codeshares' will end up biting a lot of current Altitude status holders in the rear 
Nov 23, 2015, 12:09 pm
#20
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: AC 1MM/SE 100K, MR Lifetime Premiere Plat, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 145
This seems completely fair to me -- there are simply way to many SEs that are bottom barreling the airline. Making 97$ company paid YUL-YYZ runs twice a week doesn't seem to me like someone the airline should treat as SE status.
Nov 23, 2015, 12:09 pm
#21
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: sqrt(-united states of apologist)
Programs: *$ Green
Posts: 5,403
You could travel YOW-YYZ-HND 7.5 times and get 100K AQM.....but if you buy base flex fares, you will not have enough spend to qualify for S100K- ---despite > 7 return trips to Asia!!
The $20K is out of whack with the rest of the program.
This will certainly lessen the SE numbers going forward!
The $20K is out of whack with the rest of the program.
This will certainly lessen the SE numbers going forward!
Seems like what they are trying to do is pretty clear to me.
Premium status = Premium Pax
Edit: I foresee real SE enhancements for 2017 if their technique works.
Nov 23, 2015, 12:09 pm
#22
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I'm From Here
Programs: AC*SE & MM/*Wood Gold/HHonors Diamond/Marriott Silver/AirMiles Gold
Posts: 4,567
It would be nice if they showed everyone their assumed 2016 spend to see "if" they would qualify for 2017.
My travel is booked all over the place, so it is difficult to capture my actual spend. I am sure I have hit my $20,000 but still
Plus, at least with the US airlines, they do add dollar multipliers for top tiers. No such luck here
My travel is booked all over the place, so it is difficult to capture my actual spend. I am sure I have hit my $20,000 but still
Plus, at least with the US airlines, they do add dollar multipliers for top tiers. No such luck here
Nov 23, 2015, 12:11 pm
#25
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: AC E35K, NEXUS
Posts: 4,368
I appreciate that this information came out before December, to give people the time to status match and move their business for the entire year 2016 if they were so inclined and it suited their situation better.
AQD includes base fare and carrier-imposed surcharges (Y, YQ and YR), FP purchases and eUp co-pays. It excludes LMU, BoB and "government-imposed taxes, fees and surcharges".
So if will take some figuring how much of our past travel spend is applicable to meeting the AQD requirement, and tracking the dashboard, we will have to parse the tickets carefully.
AQD includes base fare and carrier-imposed surcharges (Y, YQ and YR), FP purchases and eUp co-pays. It excludes LMU, BoB and "government-imposed taxes, fees and surcharges".
So if will take some figuring how much of our past travel spend is applicable to meeting the AQD requirement, and tracking the dashboard, we will have to parse the tickets carefully.
Nov 23, 2015, 12:12 pm
#26
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: Air Canada Aeroplan
Posts: 1,748
Nov 23, 2015, 12:13 pm
#27
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YOW
Programs: AC-SE100K, AC-3MM, Marriott- LT Titanium, SPG RIP
Posts: 2,959
Also- I thought they were trying to compete with and comparing themselves to the Asian carriers....maybe they have all gone to a spend-based model??
Nov 23, 2015, 12:13 pm
#28
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MLL / AC Cafe
Programs: It's hard to get status when the website won't let me book flights.
Posts: 5,706
Nov 23, 2015, 12:14 pm
#29
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
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"The AQD requirement also applies to all members, regardless of residency."
Very interesting.
$20k is a little steep. I spent that in 2014, but not 2015. I think there's a reasonable chance I'll spend it in 2016.
Actually right after writing that, I realized it's all in CAD. If they do another EYW, I'll definitely hit $20k in 2016.
I guess the biggest shock for me is the discrepancy between all the tiers other than SE and SE. 12cpm for everything else, 20cpm for SE.
Also, if I buy a ticket from AC that flies YYZ-LHR-JNB, you only earn AQD on "half" of it.
However, the one thing I will say is that I'm glad this came out now.
We're still waiting to find out what the benefits are in 2016, but we already know the qualification criteria for 2017.
Very interesting.
$20k is a little steep. I spent that in 2014, but not 2015. I think there's a reasonable chance I'll spend it in 2016.
Actually right after writing that, I realized it's all in CAD. If they do another EYW, I'll definitely hit $20k in 2016.
I guess the biggest shock for me is the discrepancy between all the tiers other than SE and SE. 12cpm for everything else, 20cpm for SE.
Also, if I buy a ticket from AC that flies YYZ-LHR-JNB, you only earn AQD on "half" of it.
However, the one thing I will say is that I'm glad this came out now.
We're still waiting to find out what the benefits are in 2016, but we already know the qualification criteria for 2017.
Nov 23, 2015, 12:14 pm
#30
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: AC*SE-MM, BA Bronze, Marriott Titanium & lifetime Plat
Posts: 1,820
Bracketing in the description isn't particularly clear.
What they mean is (AQM or AQS) and (AQD). But if could be read as (AQM) or (AQS and AQD).
Overall, won't change anything for most business travellers I guess.
What they mean is (AQM or AQS) and (AQD). But if could be read as (AQM) or (AQS and AQD).
Overall, won't change anything for most business travellers I guess.