Air Canada: We will oppose more flights for Emirates, Etihad
Aug 1, 2018, 8:51 am
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About the US, I would also wish they believed in the notion of win - win bilateral (or trilateral) agreements...
Aug 1, 2018, 9:32 am
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As for subsidies, protectionism is an indirect subsidy.
And if you're now asserting that EK/EY are using slave labor, if there is proof of that, why are they allowed to operate to Canada at all? If it's about labor practices in general, then we should start slapping restrictions on India/China/Philippines/countries with dodgy labor records, no objections.
If, however, principles only applies to groups/companies because of one's prejudice towards a certain part of the world, then that's just not going to cut it. Based on your post accusing EK/EY of being escort services, I'm willing to bet it's the latter.
Aug 1, 2018, 9:38 am
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Again, routes between countries are about win - win bilateral agreements, not about free market economy - if such thing as a "free market" economy actually exists.
About the US, I would also wish they believed in the notion of win - win bilateral (or trilateral) agreements...
About the US, I would also wish they believed in the notion of win - win bilateral (or trilateral) agreements...
I'm not sure what a "win-win" strategy means? Who wins? The airlines? Or consumers? Seems to me that consumers winning (ie more competition/choice) means airlines lose. And vice versa. AC seems to be of that view too.
Aug 1, 2018, 9:58 am
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Again, routes between countries are about win - win bilateral agreements, not about free market economy - if such thing as a "free market" economy actually exists.
About the US, I would also wish they believed in the notion of win - win bilateral (or trilateral) agreements...
About the US, I would also wish they believed in the notion of win - win bilateral (or trilateral) agreements...
Appreciate you trying to defend the subsidy AC is receiving in this "agreement".
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Aug 1, 2018, 10:04 am
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Maybe that was true in the 1970s. Today, the US and U.K. default position on negotiations is Open Skies based entirely on free market principles.
I'm not sure what a "win-win" strategy means? Who wins? The airlines? Or consumers? Seems to me that consumers winning (ie more competition/choice) means airlines lose. And vice versa. AC seems to be of that view too.
I'm not sure what a "win-win" strategy means? Who wins? The airlines? Or consumers? Seems to me that consumers winning (ie more competition/choice) means airlines lose. And vice versa. AC seems to be of that view too.
Somehow, I don't perceive a situation of a "free market" economy (well, absence of subsidies) when we talk about the UAE. Anyways, definitely not enough for an open sky warranting EKs daily A380s... If such dailies render some non-stop flights unprofitable, then its also a net loss for consumers (and not only for the impacted carrier).
When assessing those impacts, I don't believe Transport Canada is that stupid.
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Aug 1, 2018, 10:30 am
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It seems every time topics involving Gulf carriers arise in the AC forum the debate gets contentious so will close this thread temporarily for moderator review. I can't fail to note that this thread resurrection has nothing to do with AC so absent that link to the thread topic perhaps it can stay closed until further developments warrant.
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