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Late to the party but the suggestion of locking the overheads bins is not that far fetched. The locks could be controlled by various mechanisms. For instance, during take off and landing. Or anytime time the plane is under taxi, turbulence, etc,. Any number of control sensors could be used.
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Originally Posted by FlyingUnderTheRadar
(Post 25407079)
Late to the party but the suggestion of locking the overheads bins is not that far fetched. The locks could be controlled by various mechanisms. For instance, during take off and landing. Or anytime time the plane is under taxi, turbulence, etc,. Any number of control sensors could be used.
/with an exception, of course, for bins containing cabin fire extinguishers and other safety equipment |
Originally Posted by FlyingUnderTheRadar
(Post 25407079)
Late to the party but the suggestion of locking the overheads bins is not that far fetched. The locks could be controlled by various mechanisms. For instance, during take off and landing. Or anytime time the plane is under taxi, turbulence, etc,. Any number of control sensors could be used.
This is no where near being a simple and cheap proposition to design and implement and it is more far fetched than not. |
Originally Posted by After Burner
(Post 25405495)
I've never thought of taxi as a particularly high risk phase.
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Originally Posted by Allvest
(Post 25407440)
Ever been in a Bangkok taxi? I also had two accidents with NY taxis before.
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Originally Posted by 1Newflyer
(Post 25402676)
Ban carry-on for the remaining 75% that follow the rules all the time and considering that a plane burns before take off 0.0000001% of the time. Now lets talk about idiots?
* exaggeration in order to make a point, but I've been very vocal about the multitude of reasons why. In my original post, I even asked to mods to move this thread to one of the other carry-on threads to provide better context. |
Originally Posted by canopus27
(Post 25401464)
I think people should be allowed to take whatever bags they want, with them as they conduct their emergency exit -- but only on the condition that they sit and wait for all the passengers who want to exit without bags, to finish doing that first.
If you're not prepared to sit there and patiently watch other people leave in front of you, while you sit there (in a burning plane) waiting for them to exit first... then you shouldn't be so damn selfish to take a bag with you in front of other people. And given that the zone boarding fiasco has shown that people can't follow basic ordering rules, even in a non-emergency situation... of course it's not feasible to actually have two separate groups exiting... hence the rules exist the way they do today. Nice and simple, easy to understand, and with an old fashioned bias to keeping people alive. Also, I'm not sure that is fair to the flight crews since they have to wait for the evacuation to be complete. They already risk their lives in situations like this and this would go beyond reasonable risk for them. |
Have there ever been any reports of anyone dying because of this? Or are we discussing the equivalent of alien abduction here?
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Originally Posted by Allvest
(Post 25409388)
Have there ever been any reports of anyone dying because of this? Or are we discussing the equivalent of alien abduction here?
The likelihood of injury/death significantly increases (to the point where the level of likelihood exceeds the accepted level of safety margin) due to douche bags grabbing carry-on bags while trying to evacuate a plane during an emergency. This has been proven during numerous safety tests in the industry by many different safety testing groups, not just the OEMs, and this is why the current rules are what they are. Safety requires consistent and uniform procedures and processes. |
Originally Posted by Allvest
(Post 25409388)
Have there ever been any reports of anyone dying because of this? Or are we discussing the equivalent of alien abduction here?
Fact is, in the case of an emergency evacuation, every second counts. Just think back to AF 358 at YYZ. Everyone made it out safely but the plane still burned to ashes. Crew did an amazing job. Like I said earlier: If its not that big of an emergency, you can get your stuff later. If it is, no time to get your bags. Either way... leave everything on the plane...period. |
Originally Posted by PLeblond
(Post 25412920)
I'm thinking just using a slide with a bag is not recommended. That could cause minor injuries, but at least its only to the carrier.
Fact is, in the case of an emergency evacuation, every second counts. Just think back to AF 358 at YYZ. Everyone made it out safely but the plane still burned to ashes. Crew did an amazing job. Like I said earlier: If its not that big of an emergency, you can get your stuff later. If it is, no time to get your bags. Either way... leave everything on the plane...period. |
Originally Posted by Allvest
(Post 25413103)
I just read somewhere that the slides are rather sensitive to ripping and therefore Pax are supposed to remove high heels. In that case a roll aboard case would likely not be a good idea.
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Originally Posted by PLeblond
(Post 25413820)
I always thought that the removing heels and such was more to prevent them catching and twisting peoples' ankles. And climbing out at the bottom I assumed the slides were made of kevlar and stuff. You may be correct.
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