CX is the only airline i know of whihc enforces the "keep yr shoes on" rule during takeoff. I know .. i've been told :)

I would echo the others : i keep my passport in my pocket. otherwise, i'd be comfortable leaving it if i'm landing in YYZ. anywhere else, no way. i'm brown. the current govt would leave me stranded for months if i lost that.

I think this shoes-on issue was well-illustrated at the YHZ "hard landing" last Christmas-time...

Thanks for your tips, SD!

I was thinking about that, but wasn't sure if it was "too soon".

Ban carry-on for the remaining 75% that follow the rules all the time and considering that a plane burns before take off 0.0000001% of the time. Now lets talk about idiots?

SAS used to. They don't anymore?

There's an idea I can get behind!

Now if only we can figure out who those people are ahead of time, we can assign them window seats so they don't get in the way of people trying to evacuate without their bags ;)

Although it is always nice to have open dialogue about these things... it will eventually go nowhere.

The reality is, when you compare airline to airline, they have their own safety rules. I should start keeping a record of all the rules in some chart.


(Do WS and AC have the exact same rules?)

I was told more than once by various airlines to have shoes on for takeoff/landing. I should know better but especially for landing after a transatlantic flight... I am half asleep, sorry :)

And for grabbing hand luggage -- I have my teddy bear up there in the backpack (got the bear in 1988) and it'd be hard to leave behind but better to live without bear than be fried together. Also? I always wondered what happens after. If the luggage does not go up in smokes surely we would get it back, wouldn't we?

Preposterous.

I've never thought of taxi as a particularly high risk phase.

The following is the actual text from U.S. FAR 121.542/135.100. (can't find the Canadian one right now)

"For the purposes of this section, critical phases of flight includes all ground operations involving taxi, takeoff and landing, and all other flight operations conducted below 10,000 feet, except cruise flight."

Well, read this and you might change your mind.

"Critical" is a very good word for it. But taxiing safely is not particularly difficult. It just requires paying attention.



That was the only truly catastrophic ground ops accident I could think of. But it's not what I had in mind when I said "taxi". In my mind the taxi phase ends when the aircraft leaves the taxiway and takes the runway. Taxi begins at arrival when the aircraft exits the runway. That might actually be the strict definition but I'm not 100% sure. The Tenerife collision was on the runway with one aircraft in actual flight.

Also, visibility is a significant factor. Ground ops in fog is something I like to completely avoid.

Interesting video, idiots might face charges (we can only hope):

http://www.marketwatch.com/video/fle...034EDE796.html

Its based on people's perception of the extent of the situation

If the plane is on the tarmac with a small localized external fire some people will think taking a few seconds to get a bag won't matter. Its very unlikely to die of heat or smoke inhalation and if the engine or fuel tanks do explode then it probably doesn't matter if you're on the plane or 50 feet away on the tarmac

I didn't see anyone holding a carryon after flight 1549 landed in the Hudson.