MLL Lounge access as arrival lounge benefit
#1
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MLL Lounge access as arrival lounge benefit
I was at the YYZ AC MLL Domestic lounge this morning, travelling with a collegue from YUL.
Decided to use the AC YYZ MLL Domestic upon arrival and invited my collegue to join me. the two Lounge dragons denied access, stating that the lounge was for me only and not for my collegue as an arrival lounge. I asked them to call the SE Concierge for confirmation and told them I have done this a few times before, so this would be a change in policy.
They called a few numbers/collegues and got different stories... I gave up and called SE Concierge and she sent me the official policy from AC....
You would think the agents who work at this lounge would know the policy.. which states at E50k, E75k and SE*100k are allowed to bring family member and/or one guest to to MLL lounge in Canada as arrival.
Was absolutely frustrating experience.
Decided to use the AC YYZ MLL Domestic upon arrival and invited my collegue to join me. the two Lounge dragons denied access, stating that the lounge was for me only and not for my collegue as an arrival lounge. I asked them to call the SE Concierge for confirmation and told them I have done this a few times before, so this would be a change in policy.
They called a few numbers/collegues and got different stories... I gave up and called SE Concierge and she sent me the official policy from AC....
You would think the agents who work at this lounge would know the policy.. which states at E50k, E75k and SE*100k are allowed to bring family member and/or one guest to to MLL lounge in Canada as arrival.
Was absolutely frustrating experience.
Last edited by ACfly; Sep 7, 2015 at 8:37 pm
#2
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Maybe we should print some off, laminate them and deliver them to all the lounges.
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Link to AC MLL Access
Here's the link to the official AC MLL Access should anyone get the run around for the Lounge dragons..
http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelin...ounges/tc.html
Maple Leaf Lounge access is for departing passengers with the exception of VIP, Super Elite 100K, Elite 75K, Elite 50K members and their qualifying guests (spouse or domestic partner, dependent children and one guest), can enjoy the additional privilege of access to the domestic Maple Leaf Lounge upon arriving at airports in Canada.
http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelin...ounges/tc.html
Maple Leaf Lounge access is for departing passengers with the exception of VIP, Super Elite 100K, Elite 75K, Elite 50K members and their qualifying guests (spouse or domestic partner, dependent children and one guest), can enjoy the additional privilege of access to the domestic Maple Leaf Lounge upon arriving at airports in Canada.
#4
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To be fair, it took me 3 years of being an elite member before I even knew you could do this. Cow invited me to the Pre YVR Dorian Do at the MLL and I was shocked I could do this.
So I'm not surprised agents don't know either.
So I'm not surprised agents don't know either.
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As a somewhat new AC flyer, has there ever been mention of a YYZ arrivals lounge for international flights?
It seems inconsistent that after exiting customs, we can freshen up/shower at LHR or even on an AC codeshare arriving in Johannesburg South Africa... but not in Torono (where a full day of activities await us followed by a 3hr drive to our home in the US).
When we fly 7 to 12 hours nonstop back to YYZ we have no lounge access since we are corralled straight to CBP. We have occasionally added a stop in YUL for the sole reason that we would be pre-cleared before YYZ so we could make use of the Maple leaf lounge.
It seems inconsistent that after exiting customs, we can freshen up/shower at LHR or even on an AC codeshare arriving in Johannesburg South Africa... but not in Torono (where a full day of activities await us followed by a 3hr drive to our home in the US).
When we fly 7 to 12 hours nonstop back to YYZ we have no lounge access since we are corralled straight to CBP. We have occasionally added a stop in YUL for the sole reason that we would be pre-cleared before YYZ so we could make use of the Maple leaf lounge.
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As a somewhat new AC flyer, has there ever been mention of a YYZ arrivals lounge for international flights?
It seems inconsistent that after exiting customs, we can freshen up/shower at LHR or even on an AC codeshare arriving in Johannesburg South Africa... but not in Torono (where a full day of activities await us followed by a 3hr drive to our home in the US).
When we fly 7 to 12 hours nonstop back to YYZ we have no lounge access since we are corralled straight to CBP. We have occasionally added a stop in YUL for the sole reason that we would be pre-cleared before YYZ so we could make use of the Maple leaf lounge.
It seems inconsistent that after exiting customs, we can freshen up/shower at LHR or even on an AC codeshare arriving in Johannesburg South Africa... but not in Torono (where a full day of activities await us followed by a 3hr drive to our home in the US).
When we fly 7 to 12 hours nonstop back to YYZ we have no lounge access since we are corralled straight to CBP. We have occasionally added a stop in YUL for the sole reason that we would be pre-cleared before YYZ so we could make use of the Maple leaf lounge.
Air Canada, please read this. Thanks.
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OP - were you eventually able to get in? And hopefully the offending agents are now aware of proper protocol?
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Otherwise, I'd say your best bet is to knock on the glass and try to get the agent at the podium to turn and let you in! I've never seen anyone try that though...That being said, I find the YQR agents to be generally very good, and perhaps the most "by the book," so I'd expect they'd try and help you out.
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From what I've seen at YQR, if there are connecting pax, there will be an agent at the gate to let you through, usually with a list of connectors (only seen it used for YYC/YEG-YQR-YYZ pax during IRROPS). This is rare of course, because nobody connects in YQR!
Otherwise, I'd say your best bet is to knock on the glass and try to get the agent at the podium to turn and let you in! I've never seen anyone try that though...That being said, I find the YQR agents to be generally very good, and perhaps the most "by the book," so I'd expect they'd try and help you out.
Otherwise, I'd say your best bet is to knock on the glass and try to get the agent at the podium to turn and let you in! I've never seen anyone try that though...That being said, I find the YQR agents to be generally very good, and perhaps the most "by the book," so I'd expect they'd try and help you out.
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From what I've seen at YQR, if there are connecting pax, there will be an agent at the gate to let you through, usually with a list of connectors (only seen it used for YYC/YEG-YQR-YYZ pax during IRROPS). This is rare of course, because nobody connects in YQR!
Otherwise, I'd say your best bet is to knock on the glass and try to get the agent at the podium to turn and let you in! I've never seen anyone try that though...That being said, I find the YQR agents to be generally very good, and perhaps the most "by the book," so I'd expect they'd try and help you out.
Otherwise, I'd say your best bet is to knock on the glass and try to get the agent at the podium to turn and let you in! I've never seen anyone try that though...That being said, I find the YQR agents to be generally very good, and perhaps the most "by the book," so I'd expect they'd try and help you out.
Another time, there was an agent shooing everyone downstairs, but I showed her my connecting boarding pass, and she started apologizing profusely and let me in.
I think you might have to do a bit of explaining, simply because they've never seen it done.
I've had to explain the arrival perk at both YYC and YYZ, and those are airports where I would think it's done somewhat regularly.
#13
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I've actually connected in YQR years ago, just so I could check out the MLL. These days, I fly to YQR weekly. I'm familiar with what I'd have to do to actually try using the MLL as an arrivals lounge (i.e. knock on the glass). I just haven't ever had the need to do it. This is more of a curiosity to see if anyone has actually tried it and what their experience was.
I'm curious if the system would let you in using your arriving BP.
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That's a good point... I remember having to punch in my number a few times, card not used. But I honestly don't remember what other questions I had to answer, besides # of guests or something like that.