IFE no longer allows skipping of advertisements
Aug 5, 2015, 6:37 pm
#91
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Aug 5, 2015, 6:41 pm
#92
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Wouldn't really use the TV model as an example of a successful model for the future, have you seen the percentage break down by age that actually watch TV? Dying model, although the audience on a plane IS captive...
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Aug 5, 2015, 7:05 pm
#94
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I flew AA J/F transborder, price was half of AC to the same destination and no ads on the very new IFE. I think the plane was less than a year old. Nicer than AC's 25 year old A320's.
Aug 5, 2015, 8:36 pm
#95
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Aug 5, 2015, 8:53 pm
#96
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AC was $2300 in J, AA was $1100 in F. Easy choice for me. I was pleasantly
surprised by AA, the American airlines have really upped their game recently. Even though it was a long weekend and the planes were full, every AA/US flight I was on left about 5 min before the scheduled time and arrived early. They were full too, but everything went smoothly. I did a mileage run on the way home and did 6 segments, all were punctual.
Aug 5, 2015, 9:51 pm
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1. Upgrades cheapen the J cabin.
2. People like upgrades.
Ergo
3. People like a cheapened J cabin.
4. Advertisements also cheapen J cabin.
Therefore
5. People like adverts.
It's an enhancement!
1. Upgrades cheapen the J cabin.
2. People like upgrades.
Ergo
3. People like a cheapened J cabin.
4. Advertisements also cheapen J cabin.
Therefore
5. People like adverts.
It's an enhancement!
Aug 5, 2015, 9:57 pm
#98
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Aug 5, 2015, 11:50 pm
#99
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1. Upgrades cheapen the J cabin.
2. People like upgrades.
Ergo
3. People like a cheapened J cabin.
4. Advertisements also cheapen J cabin.
Therefore
5. People like adverts.
It's an enhancement!
1. Upgrades cheapen the J cabin.
2. People like upgrades.
Ergo
3. People like a cheapened J cabin.
4. Advertisements also cheapen J cabin.
Therefore
5. People like adverts.
It's an enhancement!
You cannot deduce that.
Unless you are Air Canada.
Aug 6, 2015, 3:50 pm
#100
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I don't go see movies very often, but last time I went, there were a bunch of commercials before the movie started. I did not read the terms and conditions, but I was specifically paying to see the movie and was subjected to commercials.
Should there be an * on my movie ticket saying I would be be "subject to a forced viewing of ads from which [the theatre] makes additional revenue."?
Should there be an * on my movie ticket saying I would be be "subject to a forced viewing of ads from which [the theatre] makes additional revenue."?
There is a small level of transparency...when you go to the cinema, they can tell you how much garbage there is before the movie. I showed up 20 minutes late the other day and asked, was told 22 minutes, so I bought a ticket, walked in hadn't missed anything other than some opening credits. It's worse depending on where you go too, in my CAN/USA experience it averages like 18-20 minutes, in Puerto Rico it was 30, in Korea it was like 15, Brazil was less.
My problem with these ads, is they're just around too long. I got so tired of "SO YOU'RE CANADIAN!?" and the guy wandering around SFO. The Enbridge ad is wearing thin too. I'd like to see them go from 1 month (feels standard) down to 2 weeks. But I swear that Porsche ad was around way longer than a month.
This is probably not the popular opinion but this doesn't really bother me. What bothers me is IFE I have to pay for. I would rather have to watch a couple of ads than have to pay for IFE.
Maybe 90 seconds is too long. If it were say 30 seconds before a TV show and 60 seconds before a film than that might be a more reasonable compromise.
IFE is not free to provide both from a hardware/maintenance perspective and a content perspective so I would rather a few adverts be used to offset the costs than have user fees.
Maybe 90 seconds is too long. If it were say 30 seconds before a TV show and 60 seconds before a film than that might be a more reasonable compromise.
IFE is not free to provide both from a hardware/maintenance perspective and a content perspective so I would rather a few adverts be used to offset the costs than have user fees.
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Aug 6, 2015, 4:01 pm
#101
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True but then wouldn't that also have to be on tickets to events, bus tickets, et al?
There is a small level of transparency...when you go to the cinema, they can tell you how much garbage there is before the movie. I showed up 20 minutes late the other day and asked, was told 22 minutes, so I bought a ticket, walked in hadn't missed anything other than some opening credits. It's worse depending on where you go too, in my CAN/USA experience it averages like 18-20 minutes, in Puerto Rico it was 30, in Korea it was like 15, Brazil was less.
My problem with these ads, is they're just around too long. I got so tired of "SO YOU'RE CANADIAN!?" and the guy wandering around SFO. The Enbridge ad is wearing thin too. I'd like to see them go from 1 month (feels standard) down to 2 weeks. But I swear that Porsche ad was around way longer than a month.
Agreed, I hate UA's inconsistency with the IFE/AVOD/Nothing/Streaming across their fleet, and I have paid for the liveTV or movie once or twice, but I'd much rather watch an ad or two, specially when the dollar isn't worth squat, a $5.99 movie turns into like $8.
There is a small level of transparency...when you go to the cinema, they can tell you how much garbage there is before the movie. I showed up 20 minutes late the other day and asked, was told 22 minutes, so I bought a ticket, walked in hadn't missed anything other than some opening credits. It's worse depending on where you go too, in my CAN/USA experience it averages like 18-20 minutes, in Puerto Rico it was 30, in Korea it was like 15, Brazil was less.
My problem with these ads, is they're just around too long. I got so tired of "SO YOU'RE CANADIAN!?" and the guy wandering around SFO. The Enbridge ad is wearing thin too. I'd like to see them go from 1 month (feels standard) down to 2 weeks. But I swear that Porsche ad was around way longer than a month.
Agreed, I hate UA's inconsistency with the IFE/AVOD/Nothing/Streaming across their fleet, and I have paid for the liveTV or movie once or twice, but I'd much rather watch an ad or two, specially when the dollar isn't worth squat, a $5.99 movie turns into like $8.
Last edited by tcook052; Aug 7, 2015 at 10:29 pm Reason: edit quote
Aug 6, 2015, 5:42 pm
#102
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It implies that since you're flying, nothing else matters, no matter how bad it is. Or at least that's how people use the video.
Who cares if you're in a serious car accident? You were driving along paved roads at 100km/h in a metal tube. You can't have everything.
You might as well shut FT down, because by your definition, every FF problem is a first world problem.
Aug 6, 2015, 5:50 pm
#103
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1. Upgrades cheapen the J cabin.
2. People like upgrades.
Ergo
3. People like a cheapened J cabin.
4. Advertisements also cheapen J cabin.
Therefore
5. People like adverts.
It's an enhancement!
1. Upgrades cheapen the J cabin.
2. People like upgrades.
Ergo
3. People like a cheapened J cabin.
4. Advertisements also cheapen J cabin.
Therefore
5. People like adverts.
It's an enhancement!
Aug 6, 2015, 5:52 pm
#104
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Here's a better way to cheapen the J cabin. During a separate discussion someone proposed a monetary percentage discount based on an ever increasing level of spend. After $10k of spend, you get a x% discount for spend between $10,001 - $50,000, then x+3% discount for spend between $50,001 - $75,000 and so on.
That's a model I could buy into, that's a cheapening on the J cabin model I would support!
Aug 7, 2015, 2:12 am
#105
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I have no clue what this thread is about or means.
Monday AC006 on a 777 IFE allowed fastforwarding of ads when I watched tv shows.
Day before yesterday AC1167 on a 788 the IFE had zero ads for tv shows I watched (as per 788 IFE).
Yesterday AC116 on a 321 IFE allowed fastforwarding of ads when I watched tv shows.
Today/last night AC856 on a 777 IFE allowed fastforwarding of ads when I watched tv shows.
I have yet to encounter the 90 second forced view of ads... ever.
Monday AC006 on a 777 IFE allowed fastforwarding of ads when I watched tv shows.
Day before yesterday AC1167 on a 788 the IFE had zero ads for tv shows I watched (as per 788 IFE).
Yesterday AC116 on a 321 IFE allowed fastforwarding of ads when I watched tv shows.
Today/last night AC856 on a 777 IFE allowed fastforwarding of ads when I watched tv shows.
I have yet to encounter the 90 second forced view of ads... ever.