jerryhung

Hurry and book your Europe trips by Dec 15, 2015


http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...-2015-a-4.html

HomerJ

...btw is there a similar wiki for TPAC?

jerryhung

TPAC is somewhat simpler (but probably more difficult) as you're stuck to fewer carriers, fewer International hubs, and they don't necessarily release space early

Carriers with YQ:
AC, NH, TG, OZ

No YQ
BR, CA, SQ, UA


East Coast Hubs to check
Canada - YYZ, YUL
USA - JFK/ORD/BOS/IAD, IAH

West Coast Hubs to check
Canada - YVR, YYC
USA - SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN

^ above is not complete list, just what I can think of right now

jerryhung

new options to Europe, thanks to UA, starting May 2016 (seasonal)

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...n-iad-lis.html

winebug

Can anyone confirm the AC maximum layover time for it to not be considered a stopover (for a one way redemption from EU to Canada, layover in Canada) ?

CrownRoyalForever

Just locked in trip on new SAS business class. There is a fair bit of availability out of ORD to ARN/CPH during the holidays week. Getting back is a whole other matter though.

Cheers

joeags

Less than 24 hours - 23:59 would be the official longest layover.

winebug

Thanks!

JJonahJ

Rode one of those SAS birds from CPH across TATL earlier this year, soon after it was newly retrofitted. Very nice J product, except the onboard WiFi (free for J class) was weak and spotty. Many pax had to get a free pass-code from the SD. If they have it, try the deer cheek on the menu!

1Newflyer

I had an option of
BOS-CPH-XXX
BOS-ZRH-XXX

Based on views in this thread, chose ZRH. Was looking for more discussion on differentiation between services of Privatair and Main SAS. But I know Swiss product, not so much others. Good to have that option for my next trips especially since SAS is adding more routes.

rankourabu

Good choice. Swiss will be flat beds, Privatair will not.

False, the longest layover is 24:00

gateguard0

I haven't seen much discussion on the impact of the new routing rules / pseudo-MPM / city pair mileage maximum to those of us based in YYT.

My very unscientific observation from a few recent TATL redemptions is that the new rules have eliminated "backtracking" to YYZ and EWR as connection points to many (most? all?) major European destinations. As an example, YYT-YUL-FRA is valid, but YYT-YYZ-FRA is not. I don't recall this being the case under the old rules.

This really limits TATL redemption flexibility, particularly if you want to avoid surcharges. A few quick searches suggest originating in YYT means you're limited to YUL-ZRH and YUL-IST for surcharge-free carriers -- I haven't done the leg work to check more thoroughly. If the couple surcharge-free options don't work, the YYT-LHR AC flight can be convenient, but it commands ~$450 of taxes/fees/surcharges on a J redemption.

For $450 or less, I can book an advance purchase Flex fare positioning flight to any North American hub as far as ORD. This lets me earn a few miles and opens up a bigger variety of carriers.

1Newflyer

How bad are 5AB seats on this flight? Currently assigned.

CanadianConnection33

Just confirmed with Aeroplan that, yes, that is the longest layover at time of booking. A schedule change will open up additional options. A schedule change of one of your flights that even reduces the layover may given you leverage to move to a different flight.

averyb

Hi everyone, I'm very new to this and hoping to get some insight into booking the above trip sometime in May or early june 2016. My partner and I are looking to go for approximately 16 days with around 4 spent in IST, doesn't matter if that is before or after Greece. When I enter this itinerary in on AP the fees are astronomical, at least $600 with the combinations I've tried. Is there an easier way to find the flights/carriers with low fees, I've seen UA mentioned but can't figure out how to filter carriers in my search. Also, would it be a better idea just to pay for the short IST-ATH flight rather than use AP miles? Thanks in advance for any help, much appreciated!