aeroman380

Sorry if this has been discussed but couldn’t find the topic when I searched.


I am wanting to redeem to Hawaii (prefer KOA) but I don't want to do an overnight to the west coast then do another long flight all in coach back home to YYZ.

Does anyone have experience of AP letting you plan a stopover (maybe in SFO YVR or LAX?) for a night to rem rest without paying more or using more points?

Cheers ahead of time

mountaingrl

Yes that would be a valid multi-city routing with a stopover and is allowed. You can build your trip on AE.com (use multi-city) to save the booking fee.

hearna

Google is your friend:

2 stops if you fly via YVR on AC or 1 if involving UA via SFO/LAX

Antonio8069

Yes, but is this a good use of AP points?

I had a quick look @ availability. Lots of classic rewards @ 45K. The revenue ticket costs $400 so that means you value AP miles at less than 1 cent/per i.e. 400/45000. Even at 25K it may not be a good use of AP miles i.e. 400/25000 = 1.6 cents (I value mine at 3 cents).

Note the revenue tix. is not a bad MR (= 6.3 cpm).

Altaflyer

Not sure there are any programs that will credit full miles anymore.

aeroman380

Thanks for the help! I must have had a lapse that this could have been done.

JJonahJ

I redeemed for 2 stopovers and an open-jaw, in Jan 2013 for travel in May 2013. I mentioned it here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20177921-post7.html
I found out later that rule 28.2.2 (posted above by hearna) should have made this an ineligible booking, as I had 2 legs on UA, not all on AC metal. So, it should only have allowed 1 stopover and 1 OJ. Ergo, YMMV.

aeroman380

Wow JJONAHJ that is what I am hoping g to do but I don't really need the open jaw. I want to stop over in SEA (or yvr, pdx) for a week and then stop over on the west coast somewhere. Maybe if I call in they will issue it but it may look like I will have to choose only one stopover.

JJonahJ

Not sure why you're pulling YVR into the analysis, as corruptcanadian says YYZ is the origin.

Anyway, total taxes for my redemption above was was $130 because it was mostly UA flights (no/low scam fees). I had to locate the Blue Saver UA award flights on my own, at the UA site, since Aeroplan.com kept trying to coerce me into flying on AC metal only.

I priced up our itinerary at Expedia.ca, and the fare would have been $1200. So, including spending $30 for the phone-in booking fee, I still saved $1040, meaning the 45K worked out to 2.3 cpm. Not super great, but with all the practically FREE Aeros raining down on us these days, it's a WIN in my books.

Booking Biz J fare would've bumped up the cpm, but we didn't have the Mega Aeros that we have now, after the torrential downpour of points since that early 2013 booking.

JJonahJ

CC, if I read your situation correctly, you want something like

YYZ-YVR stop
YVR-KOA stop/POT
KOA-YVR stop
YVR-YYZ

I forget, but are you not allowed to stop at the same destination on either side of your POT (Pseudo Nim knowledge needed here)? If yes, then you should be able to book all AC metal, and thus meet the 2 stopovers + POT rule. Assuming the higher scam blow isn't too powerful on your wallet. Else, I'd try to find an itinerary that includes SEA/PDX with UA in the mix, and call in and see if you can get it validated anyway. It' be worth the $30+tax phone-in booking fee.

why fly

yyz-Hawaii has been UNDER $500us ai on UA for months now, and not only is there E+ but its super easy to upgrade.
#2 or fly to HNL with layflat seats, use a friends RPU and upgrade months in advance.
this is just an EXAMPLE, personally i would pick different connections.
but $480 and 10k miles

Wed., Apr. 8, 2015 | Toronto, ON Canada (YYZ) to Maui, HI (OGG)
Depart:
8:15 a.m.
Wed., Apr. 8, 2015
Toronto, ON Canada (YYZ)

Arrive:
9:55 a.m.
Wed., Apr. 8, 2015
Denver, CO (DEN)
Flight Time:
3 hr 40 mn
Flight distance:
1,315 m
Flight:UA6222
Operated by SKYWEST DBA UNITED EXPRESS.
Aircraft: Canadair Regional Jet 700
Fare Class: United Economy (G)
Meal: Snacks for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
Change Planes. Connect time in Denver, CO (DEN) is 1 hour 40 minutes.
Depart:
11:35 a.m.
Wed., Apr. 8, 2015
Denver, CO (DEN)

Arrive:
3:03 p.m.
Wed., Apr. 8, 2015
Maui, HI (OGG)
Flight Time:
7 hr 28 mn

Travel Time:
12 hr 48 mn
Flight distance:
3,303 m

Total Distance:
4,618 m
Flight: UA1736
Aircraft: Boeing 757-200
Fare Class: United Economy (G)
Meal: Meals for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
Wed., Apr. 22, 2015 | Maui, HI (OGG) to Toronto, ON Canada (YYZ)
Depart:
8:50 p.m.
Wed., Apr. 22, 2015
Maui, HI (OGG)

Arrive:
5:08 a.m. +1 Day
Thu., Apr. 23, 2015
Los Angeles, CA (LAX)
Flight Time:
5 hr 18 mn
Flight distance:
2,486 m
Flight:UA1672
Aircraft: Boeing 737-800
Fare Class: United Economy (G)
Meal: Snacks for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
Change Planes. Connect time in Los Angeles, CA (LAX) is 52 minutes.
Depart:
6:00 a.m.
Thu., Apr. 23, 2015
Los Angeles, CA (LAX)

Arrive:
12:11 p.m.
Thu., Apr. 23, 2015
Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Flight Time:
4 hr 11 mn
Flight distance:
1,745 m
Flight: UA1582
Aircraft: Boeing 737-900
Fare Class: United Economy (G)
Meal: Meals for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
Change Planes. Connect time in Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare) is 1 hour 34 minutes.
Depart:
1:45 p.m.
Thu., Apr. 23, 2015
Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)

Arrive:
4:29 p.m.
Thu., Apr. 23, 2015
Toronto, ON Canada (YYZ)
Flight Time:
1 hr 44 mn

Travel Time:
13 hr 39 mn
Flight distance:
437 m

Total Distance:
4,668 m
Flight: UA1159
Aircraft: Boeing 737-700
Fare Class: United Economy (G)
Meal: None
No Special Meal Offered.

aeroman380

Yes, like that routing (anywhere on the west)...I am just dreading coming back to YYZ from Hawaii all frazzled on overnight flights and it ruining my relaxed zen..haha. The point of going to Hawaii is to relax but I think a stop on the west coast to chill on the way back would be ideal, but if I must, I must. Otherwise, I will have to see about mixing up the rewards and use points on another airline from the west. The point of stopping on the way there is to visit family.

taylor

Umm, what airline offers lie flat seats?

hearna

AC pre rouge had YVR/YYC - HNL...

AC still does YYC-OGG