AC reaches 10-year deal with pilots. 2017 Update: deal amended
#91
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
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Yeah, but aren't I exactly the type of passenger AC wants? Someone who books long-haul premium cabins, and uses status perks only on shorter flights?
So because the impacted benefit is one I use but you don't, who cares?
If they took away the baggage waiver for SEs, I wouldn't care, but others would. Different people make use of different benefits.
There was a post somewhere about YOW-YYZ flight upgrade clearance rates dropping recently.
You are a FF and you meet the criteria for SE status. Yes, the airline offers some eup options to customers who reach SE. It's part of the bundled benefits. Keep in mind that those things are not a guarantee of an upgrade. As sexy and enticing as eups sound, they are in the same league as the promise of "gourmet" snacks in the MLL. You and other SEs get a lot of those coupons and because you fly often, have a much greater opportunity to benefit from them. True, you might forgo an opportunity on a shorthaul when a FO is seated, but so what? You haven't been penalized, nor have you suffered a loss. It would be different if you had paid for a seat and were moved to Y to make way for the FO.
Keep in mind that as a SE, you already qualify for a boatload of extras that mere mortals like me cannot receive, even though I might be on a paid business class ticket too. Most valuable of all is the way the airline will bend over backwards to take care of you during IROPs or when you need to rebook. Remember too that for us lower echelons, we too get a bundle of benefits, most of which are useless.
Keep in mind that as a SE, you already qualify for a boatload of extras that mere mortals like me cannot receive, even though I might be on a paid business class ticket too. Most valuable of all is the way the airline will bend over backwards to take care of you during IROPs or when you need to rebook. Remember too that for us lower echelons, we too get a bundle of benefits, most of which are useless.
If they took away the baggage waiver for SEs, I wouldn't care, but others would. Different people make use of different benefits.
There was a post somewhere about YOW-YYZ flight upgrade clearance rates dropping recently.
#92
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: OGG, YYC
Programs: AA, AC
Posts: 3,697
Seriously though, a fundamental difference between paying passengers and FOs is that customers, collectively, through their Walmart-shopper, lowest-price mentality, are complicit in the trend to higher density, excruciatingly uncomfortable Y cabin seating. In the past, deadheading crew in Y could expect a reasonable level of comfort. That's no longer the case. Being seated in J merely gives them back a level of comfort they used to have before Y became a sardine can.
If we want to talk about decency, respect, safety, etc., try this: if a pilot's job is so sensitive to rest that flying J domestically versus Y domestically is important, then they shouldn't be flying at all to get to work.