curious incident of the missing Flight 103
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curious incident of the missing Flight 103
Perhaps Sherlock Holmes could investigate and provide an answer as to why both Tuesday's (25 Feb) and today's flights are nowhere to be found on AC's flight status enquiry. This is a Tuesday, Wednesday only flight to YVR operating with a 767 and as I am flying out next Tuesday in J class, I thought I would keep track of its timing since I have a 1 hour 45 minute connection to LAS. There is no indication that 103 was cancelled both yesterday and today, the flight status site simply indicates that 103 is an invalid flight number (which of course it is not). Most curious indeed.
I am also curious to know that if AC cancels this flight, would they re-book me on another flight e.g. to LAX and then connecting to LAS in J without a financial penalty. There are no direct flights to LAS next Tuesday (which is normally Rouge only), so I am stuck making some sort of connection.
I am also curious to know that if AC cancels this flight, would they re-book me on another flight e.g. to LAX and then connecting to LAS in J without a financial penalty. There are no direct flights to LAS next Tuesday (which is normally Rouge only), so I am stuck making some sort of connection.
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I see AC103 for every day except yesterday on flightaware: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA103
Curiously, today's flight is scheduled for 6:50AM -> 9:05AM, but flightaware has the duration as "Scheduled" and not some time. Perhaps somebody with ExpertFlyer would be able to help?
If you're on a single ticket to LAS, i.e. YYZ-LAS, instead of two separate tickets, i.e. YYZ-YVR, YVR-LAS, then, yes, AC will rebook you. If not, then YMMV. I doubt they will go for YYZ(-YVR)-LAX-LAS, since the LAX-LAS would be operated by an American carrier, but if it's due to a cancellation on their part, they are supposed to reroute you on their metal first, *A second, and other airlines third. There's no guarantee that they'll have J available on all segments, but if you were booked in J (as opposed to upgraded into J), you are able to refuse reroutings in Y.
Isn't there a YYZ-LAS direct flight?
Curiously, today's flight is scheduled for 6:50AM -> 9:05AM, but flightaware has the duration as "Scheduled" and not some time. Perhaps somebody with ExpertFlyer would be able to help?
If you're on a single ticket to LAS, i.e. YYZ-LAS, instead of two separate tickets, i.e. YYZ-YVR, YVR-LAS, then, yes, AC will rebook you. If not, then YMMV. I doubt they will go for YYZ(-YVR)-LAX-LAS, since the LAX-LAS would be operated by an American carrier, but if it's due to a cancellation on their part, they are supposed to reroute you on their metal first, *A second, and other airlines third. There's no guarantee that they'll have J available on all segments, but if you were booked in J (as opposed to upgraded into J), you are able to refuse reroutings in Y.
Isn't there a YYZ-LAS direct flight?
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Perhaps Sherlock Holmes could investigate and provide an answer as to why both Tuesday's (25 Feb) and today's flights are nowhere to be found on AC's flight status enquiry. This is a Tuesday, Wednesday only flight to YVR operating with a 767 and as I am flying out next Tuesday in J class, I thought I would keep track of its timing since I have a 1 hour 45 minute connection to LAS. There is no indication that 103 was cancelled both yesterday and today, the flight status site simply indicates that 103 is an invalid flight number (which of course it is not). Most curious indeed.
I am also curious to know that if AC cancels this flight, would they re-book me on another flight e.g. to LAX and then connecting to LAS in J without a financial penalty. There are no direct flights to LAS next Tuesday (which is normally Rouge only), so I am stuck making some sort of connection.
I am also curious to know that if AC cancels this flight, would they re-book me on another flight e.g. to LAX and then connecting to LAS in J without a financial penalty. There are no direct flights to LAS next Tuesday (which is normally Rouge only), so I am stuck making some sort of connection.
Looks like a couple of times a week the 6.50 a.m. AC103 YYZ to YVR operates as AC107 @ 7.00 a.m. to Calgary
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Perhaps Sherlock Holmes could investigate and provide an answer as to why both Tuesday's (25 Feb) and today's flights are nowhere to be found on AC's flight status enquiry. This is a Tuesday, Wednesday only flight to YVR operating with a 767 and as I am flying out next Tuesday in J class, I thought I would keep track of its timing since I have a 1 hour 45 minute connection to LAS. There is no indication that 103 was cancelled both yesterday and today, the flight status site simply indicates that 103 is an invalid flight number (which of course it is not). Most curious indeed.
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.4/Diamond - Timetable/NL]
Code:
YYZ Toronto Lester B Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
YVR Vancouver Metro / Intl BC CA = YVR CXH [CYVR]
MON 24 Feb 2014 - 03 Mar 2014
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------
AC 103 YYZ 06:45 YVR 08:53 321 0 -----6- 05:08 1 M 01 Mar 01 Mar
AC 103 YYZ 06:50 YVR 08:58 320 0 1-----7 05:08 1 M 02 Mar 03 Mar Mon 24 Feb
AC 103 YYZ 06:50 YVR 09:00 320 0 ---45-- 05:10 1 M 27 Feb 28 Feb
AC 103 YYZ 06:50 YVR 09:11 320 0 1------ 05:21 1 M 24 Feb 24 Feb Mon 03 Mar
AC 153 YYZ 08:00 YVR 10:07 77W 0 1234567 05:07 1 M 21 Feb 03 Mar
AC 1175 YYZ 09:00 YVR 11:08 EQV 0 1----6- 05:08 1 M 24 Feb 03 Mar Mon 24 Feb
AC 1175 YYZ 09:00 YVR 11:10 EQV 0 ---45-- 05:10 1 M 24 Feb 03 Mar
AC 1175 YYZ 09:00 YVR 11:21 321 0 123---- 05:21 1 M 24 Feb 26 Feb Mon 03 Mar
AC 181 YYZ 10:00 YVR 12:07 77W 0 12-4567 05:07 1 M 21 Feb 04 Mar
AC 181 YYZ 10:00 YVR 12:15 763 0 --3---- 05:15 1 M 26 Feb 26 Feb
AC 101 YYZ 12:00 YVR 14:08 321 0 1----67 05:08 1 M 01 Mar 03 Mar Mon 24 Feb
AC 101 YYZ 12:00 YVR 14:10 EQV 0 ---45-- 05:10 1 M 24 Feb 03 Mar
AC 101 YYZ 12:00 YVR 14:21 EQV 0 123---- 05:21 1 M 24 Feb 03 Mar Mon 03 Mar
AC 109 YYZ 14:00 YVR 16:08 320 0 1----67 05:08 1 M 01 Mar 03 Mar Mon 24 Feb
AC 109 YYZ 14:00 YVR 16:10 EQV 0 ---45-- 05:10 1 M 24 Feb 03 Mar
AC 109 YYZ 14:00 YVR 16:21 EQV 0 123---- 05:21 1 M 24 Feb 03 Mar Mon 03 Mar
AC 161 YYZ 16:00 YVR 18:10 763 0 1--45-7 05:10 1 M 27 Feb 03 Mar Mon 24 Feb
AC 161 YYZ 16:00 YVR 18:15 763 0 123---- 05:15 1 M 24 Feb 26 Feb Mon 03 Mar
AC 161 YYZ 16:30 YVR 18:38 320 0 -----6- 05:08 1 M 01 Mar 01 Mar
AC 137 YYZ 18:00 YVR 20:07 77W 0 1234567 05:07 1 M 24 Feb 03 Mar
AC 33 YYZ 20:05 YVR 22:12 77L 0 1234567 05:07 1 M 24 Feb 03 Mar
AC 151 YYZ 22:55 YVR 01:03 +1 320 0 -----67 05:08 1 M 01 Mar 02 Mar
AC 151 YYZ 22:55 YVR 01:05 +1 320 0 ---45-- 05:10 1 M 27 Feb 28 Feb
AC 151 YYZ 22:55 YVR 01:16 +1 320 0 123---- 05:21 1 M 24 Feb 26 Feb Mon 03 Mar
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.4/Diamond - Timetable/NL]
Code:
YYZ Toronto Lester B Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
YVR Vancouver Metro / Intl BC CA = YVR CXH [CYVR]
MON 03 Mar 2014 - 10 Mar 2014
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------
AC 103 YYZ 06:45 YVR 08:53 321 0 -----6- 05:08 1 M 08 Mar 08 Mar
AC 103 YYZ 06:50 YVR 08:58 320 0 1--45-7 05:08 1 M 03 Mar 10 Mar
AC 103 YYZ 06:50 YVR 09:00 763 0 -23---- 05:10 1 M 04 Mar 05 Mar
AC 153 YYZ 08:00 YVR 10:07 77W 0 1234567 05:07 1 M 03 Mar 10 Mar
AC 1175 YYZ 09:00 YVR 11:08 EQV 0 123456- 05:08 1 M 03 Mar 10 Mar
AC 181 YYZ 10:00 YVR 12:07 EQV 0 1234567 05:07 1 M 03 Mar 10 Mar
AC 101 YYZ 12:00 YVR 14:08 EQV 0 1234567 05:08 1 M 03 Mar 10 Mar
AC 109 YYZ 14:00 YVR 16:08 EQV 0 1234567 05:08 1 M 03 Mar 10 Mar
AC 161 YYZ 16:00 YVR 18:10 763 0 12345-7 05:10 1 M 03 Mar 10 Mar
AC 161 YYZ 16:30 YVR 18:38 319 0 -----6- 05:08 1 M 08 Mar 08 Mar
AC 137 YYZ 18:00 YVR 20:07 77W 0 1234567 05:07 1 M 03 Mar 10 Mar
AC 33 YYZ 20:05 YVR 22:12 77L 0 1234567 05:07 1 M 03 Mar 10 Mar
AC 151 YYZ 22:55 YVR 01:03 +1 EQV 0 --3-567 05:08 1 M 03 Mar 10 Mar