eupgrades and fare classes
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:10 pm
#46
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: YYZ
Programs: ACMM SE UA2MM Marriott Lifetime Tite Titanium
Posts: 4,472
LHR & SYD are my destinations.
With the introduction of E-Credits, if AC 33 is not booked as a through flight you have to wait for the window to open for each segment.
There no ifs & buts about it.
No way can you upgrade YYZ-YVR
YVR-SYD when only the window for YYZ-YVR opens up.
Even Concierges cannot do it.
Many a times I am travelling when my AC 33 YYZ-YVR & YVR-SYD window open up.
YVR concierges do upgrade requests for me & they have to wait for each segment window to open up.
If they cannot do it, you cannot.
I have doing this route several times a year for the past decade.
How many times a year do you do this route & for how many years have you been doing it?
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:20 pm
#48
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 1,022
No, I will not give in - not without a fight. A revised protocol should not disadvantage YYZ pax. I will campaign to have the window open for the YVR - SYD leg at Toronto departure time for all pax traveling that route.
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:24 pm
#49
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 1,022
You were lucky. There was Glitch.
LHR & SYD are my destinations.
With the introduction of E-Credits, if AC 33 is not booked as a through flight you have to wait for the window to open for each segment.
There no ifs & buts about it.
No way can you upgrade YYZ-YVR
YVR-SYD when only the window for YYZ-YVR opens up.
Even Concierges cannot do it.
Many a times I am travelling when my AC 33 YYZ-YVR & YVR-SYD window open up.
YVR concierges do upgrade requests for me & they have to wait for each segment window to open up.
If they cannot do it, you cannot.
I have doing this route several times a year for the past decade.
How many times a year do you do this route & for how many years have you been doing it?
LHR & SYD are my destinations.
With the introduction of E-Credits, if AC 33 is not booked as a through flight you have to wait for the window to open for each segment.
There no ifs & buts about it.
No way can you upgrade YYZ-YVR
YVR-SYD when only the window for YYZ-YVR opens up.
Even Concierges cannot do it.
Many a times I am travelling when my AC 33 YYZ-YVR & YVR-SYD window open up.
YVR concierges do upgrade requests for me & they have to wait for each segment window to open up.
If they cannot do it, you cannot.
I have doing this route several times a year for the past decade.
How many times a year do you do this route & for how many years have you been doing it?
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:27 pm
#50
In Memoriam
Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,873
You were lucky. There was Glitch.
LHR & SYD are my destinations.
With the introduction of E-Credits, if AC 33 is not booked as a through flight you have to wait for the window to open for each segment.
There no ifs & buts about it.
No way can you upgrade YYZ-YVR
YVR-SYD when only the window for YYZ-YVR opens up.
Even Concierges cannot do it.
Many a times I am travelling when my AC 33 YYZ-YVR & YVR-SYD window open up.
YVR concierges do upgrade requests for me & they have to wait for each segment window to open up.
If they cannot do it, you cannot.
I have doing this route several times a year for the past decade.
How many times a year do you do this route & for how many years have you been doing it?
LHR & SYD are my destinations.
With the introduction of E-Credits, if AC 33 is not booked as a through flight you have to wait for the window to open for each segment.
There no ifs & buts about it.
No way can you upgrade YYZ-YVR
YVR-SYD when only the window for YYZ-YVR opens up.
Even Concierges cannot do it.
Many a times I am travelling when my AC 33 YYZ-YVR & YVR-SYD window open up.
YVR concierges do upgrade requests for me & they have to wait for each segment window to open up.
If they cannot do it, you cannot.
I have doing this route several times a year for the past decade.
How many times a year do you do this route & for how many years have you been doing it?
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:28 pm
#51
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: LGA
Programs: DL DM, UA Gold, Marriott Plat Prem., Hilton Gold, National Exec Elite.
Posts: 2,530
But who in their right mind would NOT book YYZ-SYD as a through flight? If nothing else it would likely be a lot more expensive to book YYZ-YVR, and YVR-SYD on separate tickets.
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:31 pm
#52
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: YYZ
Programs: ACMM SE UA2MM Marriott Lifetime Tite Titanium
Posts: 4,472
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if R=0 on YYZ-YVR and R>=1 on YVR-SYD, only YVR pax will be able to confirm the upgrade in advance. YYZ pax will have to wait that R on YYZ-YVR opens up to confirm the upgrade. (Or most likely wait till the gate)
This happens because both segments can be booked separately, but only show up as one flight on the eUp site.
This happened to me when flying AC007 winter schedule, which is very similar in the way its handled to 33 but goes to HKG.
This happens because both segments can be booked separately, but only show up as one flight on the eUp site.
This happened to me when flying AC007 winter schedule, which is very similar in the way its handled to 33 but goes to HKG.
For AC 33 & 34 I can .
If you are booked as follows:
YYZ-SYD AC 33, you can upgrade when the window opens as SE 7 days prior @ 8:30PM or around that time. If no R, it will go on WL.
If it goes to Gate, AC 33 through flight gets priority.
Meaning, if the sector between YYZ-YVR no J, only YVR-SYD.
You will get BPs YYZ-SYD as Y.
When you arrive in YVR. The gate Agent will hand you your Upgraded YVR-SYD sector. If you are SE the Concierge working the flight will hand you the upgraded sector.
PAX boarding in YYZ on a through flight even E35 trumps a SE boarding in YVR even if that SE is on a full Y , YVR-SYD.
There is no way around it.
I always book AC 33 as a through flight.
SYD-YYZ AC 34. You can request upgrade when the window opens up. The time is same for SYD-YYZ or SYD-YVR.
In the years I have been doing this flight, I have never seen SYD-YVR have R @ 7 day window without SYD-YYZ having it.
Now if it goes to the Gate.
And there are seats only SYD-YVR, Paxs on Through flight AC 34 get Piority, Including E35 going to YYZ over SE going to YVR.
Again. SYD-YVR will be in J & YVR-YYZ Y.
This has happen to me more times than I can remember.
The SYD Concierge puts me on YVR-YYZ on WL . 9 out of 10, when I land in YVR, YVR concierges meets me and hands me the J BP for YVR-YYZ.
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:34 pm
#53
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: YYZ
Programs: ACMM SE UA2MM Marriott Lifetime Tite Titanium
Posts: 4,472
Crazy Mileage Junkies. Actually you can book it as 2 segments without the fare going up. You will get extra 1000 miles I think.
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:35 pm
#54
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 1,022
the reason this really amuses me is that most upgrades for YVR-SYD clear the day of travel, very very very very few clear at 7 days out, and so it's a pointless fight.
But who in their right mind would NOT book YYZ-SYD as a through flight? If nothing else it would likely be a lot more expensive to book YYZ-YVR, and YVR-SYD on separate tickets.
But who in their right mind would NOT book YYZ-SYD as a through flight? If nothing else it would likely be a lot more expensive to book YYZ-YVR, and YVR-SYD on separate tickets.
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:35 pm
#55
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: LGA
Programs: DL DM, UA Gold, Marriott Plat Prem., Hilton Gold, National Exec Elite.
Posts: 2,530
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:37 pm
#56
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: LGA
Programs: DL DM, UA Gold, Marriott Plat Prem., Hilton Gold, National Exec Elite.
Posts: 2,530
http://www.webflyer.com/travel/mileage_calculator/
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:37 pm
#57
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SE (*A Gold), Bonvoy Platinum Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum / AP Reserve, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,760
You need to read more carefully. Of course one would book YYZ-SYD as a through flight if one's going from YYZ to SYD. And of course an upgrade on that through flight should stand for the whole flight, i.e. from YYZ to SYD.
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:45 pm
#58
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,873
i seem to recall a FTer doing exactly that hoping for more miles only to find out that AC only credits miles for YYZ-SYD even when the pax books AC33 YYZ-YVR and AC33 YVR-SYD as two separate segments. No personal experienc myself and my memory could be faulty, so dont quote me on that one.
Jul 28, 2013 | 5:58 pm
#59
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: AC SE, Bonvoy Plat, Natl Exec
Posts: 2,344
Flight Mileage Calc says: YYZ-SYD = 9660 miles; whereas YYZ-YVR-SYD = 9840, so only ~ 200 more miles it seems, but still you'd really have to be crazy to book separately.
http://www.webflyer.com/travel/mileage_calculator/
http://www.webflyer.com/travel/mileage_calculator/
Jul 28, 2013 | 6:12 pm
#60
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 1,022
I read it carefully. If it is the same plane you and I irrespective of where we board it should have the same chance to upgrade if status and fare class are the same. Hope you read this carefully.
Last edited by Lllahim; Jul 28, 2013 at 6:15 pm Reason: add class to fare.