Additional Screening $$$$
Jan 31, 2013 | 6:44 am
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Additional Screening $$$$
(Apologise if this has been answered before, a quick search and nothing came up)
Flying YYC to IAH on Air Canada, I am an E and have nexus, however I wasn't allowed to check in on-line or use the nexus line in security due to "$$$$$" on my boarding ticket. Apparently it means I have been flagged for additional screening.
Is this random? Does it stick with you? Anyone I can contact to try to prevent this in the future? I fly to IAH once a month for work, and this is the first time I have been flagged so I am hoping it is simply a random check.
Thanks!
Flying YYC to IAH on Air Canada, I am an E and have nexus, however I wasn't allowed to check in on-line or use the nexus line in security due to "$$$$$" on my boarding ticket. Apparently it means I have been flagged for additional screening.
Is this random? Does it stick with you? Anyone I can contact to try to prevent this in the future? I fly to IAH once a month for work, and this is the first time I have been flagged so I am hoping it is simply a random check.
Thanks!
Jan 31, 2013 | 6:49 am
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(Apologise if this has been answered before, a quick search and nothing came up)
Flying YYC to IAH on Air Canada, I am an E and have nexus, however I wasn't allowed to check in on-line or use the nexus line in security due to "$$$$$" on my boarding ticket. Apparently it means I have been flagged for additional screening.
Is this random? Does it stick with you? Anyone I can contact to try to prevent this in the future? I fly to IAH once a month for work, and this is the first time I have been flagged so I am hoping it is simply a random check.
Thanks!
Flying YYC to IAH on Air Canada, I am an E and have nexus, however I wasn't allowed to check in on-line or use the nexus line in security due to "$$$$$" on my boarding ticket. Apparently it means I have been flagged for additional screening.
Is this random? Does it stick with you? Anyone I can contact to try to prevent this in the future? I fly to IAH once a month for work, and this is the first time I have been flagged so I am hoping it is simply a random check.
Thanks!
I find I got it twice when i booked one way flights...i think its hit and miss though.
Jan 31, 2013 | 7:03 am
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It's random. Nothing you can do about it except be helpful to the security staff who have to screen you (e.g. move over to the line with the body scanner rather than going through your normal line so someone doesn't have to escort you there after you've gone through the metal detector).
Jan 31, 2013 | 8:34 am
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I have had the dreaded SSSSS a couple of times. It is random though more prevalent on one way tickets. Never had it since I had Nexus though I have been pulled just once for a random secondary screening - US customs, not security.
As stated, nothing to do but grin and bear it.
As stated, nothing to do but grin and bear it.
Jan 31, 2013 | 9:09 am
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Last time I got SSSS was on an AA flight EZE-MIA. I was prepared for the worst, since I was flying to the US. But the guy who searched me was deeply apologetic and seemed genuinely embarrassed that he had to put me through the drill. To me the whole things was quick and very painless. At the end he wished me a good flight and expressed his hope that I'll come back again to his beautiful country (which I will!).
Contrast that with the SSSS I've received here at YYZ which were impersonal though routine and reasonably professional.
Contrast that with the SSSS I've received here at YYZ which were impersonal though routine and reasonably professional.
Jan 31, 2013 | 9:21 am
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With Air Canada, it seems like you do not want to enter your NEXUS card number PRIOR to OLCI. During OLCI, you're free to enter it, and you should have no problems.
Jan 31, 2013 | 9:44 am
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I've had SSSS in a period of higher than my usual frequency, so other than random, it may be triggered by changes in travel behaviour. I've only had it ex-YYZ, my home base, never returning home. But other than being unable to OLCI and print BP, it was really no biggie. I do the patdown rather than the body scanner for various reasons of my own, but I have found them professional about it all, if not always as interested as I am in getting the show on the road.
Jan 31, 2013 | 10:50 am
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Back in the day (before 2010), SSSS was a big deal on TB flights. I remember we used to have to get a HHMD scan, full pat down, explosive trace of all bags and a full bag search. That used to suck (could take 20 minutes if you had full luggage or some bonehead was searching your bags), although getting SSSS was much less common back then.
Jan 31, 2013 | 10:56 am
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Jan 31, 2013 | 3:12 pm
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Anyhow, it isn't published, nor will it be published. There are some things that seem to increase the probability of this (one-way tickets, purchased with cash, et al). But other than that, no one really knows, and those who do won't talk about it.
Jan 31, 2013 | 3:40 pm
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- Most of you know this already: In Canada, SSSS is essentially a TB phenomenon, but it has been known to rear its ugly head on connecting domestic/international legs and even some tickets not crossing the border.
- It is absolutely true that o/w bookings, not checking bags on int'l itineraries, cash bookings and last-minute bookings greatly increase the risk of SSSS.
- Before 2010, SSSS was far more targeted around destination and nationality of the traveller. Statistically, a much greater number of African, South Asian and Arab travellers were selected before 2010. Since 2010, something changed (I'm not sure of the details) and the SSSS process became much more "democratic".
- SSSS is mostly automated these days; as a result anyone can get it from infants to white Canadian or American grannies.
- Airlines have been known to "create" SSSSes... this is pretty unlikely though, particularly for FFs.
- SSSS is a much lower priority for the TSA or CATSA than it used to be.
I do not know the sampling methods, formulae or specific criteria beyond what I listed, if any of those things in fact exist. I do know a bit more about the statistics and practical implications of SSSS but I think it is unwise for me to say much more.